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TNT Call notes 26-June-2015
Dr Kyre Adept
[Pam appreciated all those who keep the forum going and the transcriptions flowing.]
Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today is Friday, June 26, 2015. I never thought we’d be here but here we are. Let me give you some good news and then we’ll have a good weekend. I don’t know how the last call will go – DC says they think I’ll do or say, so I’ll probably prerecord it. First, though, I appreciate each and everyone you, the ones who have been here for five years or five days, the ones who are still here and the ones who had to leave and get on with their lives. Thank you for believing that we are doing the best we can do to bring you the best information, without any agenda. There are dinar people out there who have an agenda: joining their group, paying for this and that, proposing things that involve your money. If it is a good plan, you can do it yourself.
“My mother turns 93 on Saturday has been listening three times a week for over a year.” Happy Birthday Martha Harper! She is still waiting for this to pop and for her time to enjoy her life. Many older people have been following this for years, and I want them to enjoy it.
Also Happy Birthday to Country Girl’s husband. I want you all to reach your dreams.
I want to answer the following: “Lots of scared people out there, lots of crazy stuff floating around. On Wednesday’s call you gave different days it could possibly go – or not at all, so have a Plan B. Please speak to this. If there are no exchange centers in the USA, then we are SOL. What is your Plan B if this doesn’t happen?” You all let me know if I have answered this by the end of the call.
The news is great. There are a couple of events we might have been waiting for. The administration is happy because TPP passed. In Greece, they said that it was almost done, then it fell apart again. Right now, this hour, we are getting that they are closer than ever to a deal being finalized today. I was concerned by Merkel saying on Wednesday that this has to be done by Monday, and the IMF is pissed. If that doesn’t happen, there will be chaos in the markets, especially if a country leaves the EuroZone. It would take time to settle down. All that time, Iraq is ready to go, loading cards – watch what they do, not what they say. They are going full steam ahead, determined to do this. In the last 24-48 hours, the President got what wanted with TPP and from the Supreme Court with the Affordable Care Act. It’s now the law of the land, and people can depend on it now. (That’s not an endorsement. ObamaCare helped a lot of people, and that is a good thing. I don’t know that it’s as affordable as we hoped. My daughter is 26, and she still cannot afford 6,000 per year. But there are a whole lot of people who are under different plans, and I thank God that those people can get affordable care.) The point is that the President is in a good spot, on a winning cycle, with the Supreme Court affirming marriage equality. They are on a winning cycle, and yesterday they said, “Let’s make this happen with the RV.
Yesterday banks got the following memo: “CBI just announced they arranged a currency exchange in the banks union between USD and IQD; we may not see the rate for 48 hours.” That was issued yesterday. Today I got information that it’s all good – don’t’ listen to the mess out there, we should be exchanges by Tuesday. That is another piece that has fallen into place. Did I say the RV is happening in the next hour or five hours, or over the weekend, or on Tuesday morning? No. But all those are possibilities. It could happen any time. People are happy and all they are waiting for is to finalize a few little things and then give a date and time.
So let’s look at Plan B. When I said things might not work out the way we want them to, I was talking about timing and reserves. There is a high probability you are NOT going to see your reserves, because I don’t think things will come to a conclusion by the time we are ready to go. So… go buy more currency, from whomever you choose and whatever currency you like, to make up the losses. That is one Plan B. Another thing is to redo your Plan, because you have less than you expected. Do that NOW, while you are ready to think. Talk to advisers and dinarians, and work out a new plan. You’ll still have to set aside 50% for taxes, get the rest working, and then spend the money that your money is working. Do that rather than spending your money on cars and houses because then it’s gone. You may never have this opportunity again, so don’t waste it. That’s what I would be doing. Anything else, we are just too close to this happening.
617 caller: Hoping this will happen this weekend! Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
252 caller: I’m a fellow Air Force man myself, on 100% disability from the military. If this goes through, will I lose my benefits?
Tony: I wouldn’t think so, but ask someone who knows; go to the base and ask them the question, about if you came into some money, how would that affect your benefits. If it does affect your pension, you can transfer it or give it to someone else. If I were a vet and it was going to affect my pension, I would put it an a trust. You might want to ask an attorney what to do.
Caller: Thanks, I will see you in Las Vegas next week.
252 caller: I heard on the radio some information: a guru said there is a countdown to a meltdown. I notice that the things you say turn out to be true in a few days, so if you don’t like what Tony says, don’t call. If there is someone on the line who has to release their currency, and let someone else come in who does believe this will happen. I can leave Tony my information, and you can give your currency to me. I may be able to get to Las Vegas, but I will be a happy millionaire!
404 caller: Happy Birthday to Martha Harper! You said there is a high probability we won’t see our reserves, so go to Plan B. Is that for all currency dealers or Sterling?
Tony: I’m not speaking for Sterling or anyone else. Some 90% of dinarians probably will NOT see their reserves. That is just my opinion, so develop Plan B.
404 caller: Is it a timing issue or something else?
Tony: I could tell you things you probably don’t want to know, and it won’t do us any good to say it. You have to pick your battles, and now is not the time. I am just trying to help this go as smoothly as possible. I am trying to keep us in the game. Some people had to be flexible to keep us here, and we have to be flexible to stay here. Two years ago, when I started TNT, and even back with the other place, I told you this was going to happen at the end. We knew there was a plan for the end, and we have to be flexible. Have a Plan B and start implementing it now.
Caller: Stories about Jack Lew… he made some remarks at the China meeting saying, “We will work on security, … and exchange rate reform…” That was the first time I’ve heard anything like that from Jack Lew.
Tony: I’m not sure, but the tax rate may be significantly lower than we thought. That’s just come out in the last 24 hours. If I were you, I would keep that 50% separate until we find out for sure. You will never suffer from having extra money left over.
Caller: Contract rates?
Tony: So far as know, the contract rates are still on the table.
Caller: Thanks very much! Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! I hope it happens today or this weekend or Monday night!
702 caller: With the reserves, that is a timing thing, is that what you think? Or is it just not a possibility any more?
Tony: I think we are so close to seeing that, the reserves situation will not be resolved by that time. So I wouldn’t count on it. That could change on a dime, but I’d be working on Plan B.
Caller: I got on the call on Monday for the first time. Keep up the good job! Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: I am just going right down the line today, and I intended to get this call over with in 30 minutes. Iraq is ready, they are still telling people on the television and in the mosques that they are going to do it. We got information yesterday that people do have rates on their cards and they are using the cards outside Iraq. Some of the banks are now international as well. We know the memo came out in three different banks saying that the USD and IQD will be exchanged. The President is happy with three wins in a row and they are ready to go now. They just want Greece to be finalized before this happens. By 30. June, both Greece and Iran have to do something.
410 caller: The thing with Iran and the thing with the TPP and the Greek piece… in addition to all they have won that they are feel good about, do they have to have all three, or will two out of three be enough?
Tony: My contacts are saying the administration is ready to go. They are winning and this is the time to go. IMF wants to see how the thing with Greece goes. If they leave the EuroZone, what happens with trade, import-export, and all the rest. That could be resolved in a day, a week, or it could take six months. It’s significant enough that they want to know how it will affect everyone else before changing things with all this money.
They want to at least know what direction Greece will go. In the last few days, they have been working on this. Something has to be done before Monday and then Tuesday is the first of July.
Caller: I haven’t heard the s-word today..
Tony: I’m super-fantastic! I am feeling better today than yesterday. Nobody knows! They are gambling with millions of lives, and I’m hearing it’s about egos again. “Nobody tells me what to do”, and their whole country is at stake! (I’m talking about Greece and their finance minister and prime minister.) But what they are doing doesn’t make sense; they can’t just keep taking money and burning it up. At some point it has to stop.
Caller: Thanks to you and the whole team, and all the people who have helped us along the way. Hug, hug, hug, and Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
636 caller: I’ve been on the call since its inception, and talked to you four or five times. I said something wealth distribution. You muted me out and talked about how it would be a good thing. Last call you said there were three things: Greece, Iran and the TPP. I have always thought that the US approval is the main thing. But what about Iran – is that a factor?
Tony: They need to know which direction Iran will go — they are a power in the region, they have troops there, and they have a border with Iraq. Money was smuggled into Iran by Maliki, so they are just involved as we are. Iran has always been an Iraqi ally, and they cannot be ignored. People I’ve talked to say that they do have a solution. They have something in place to block smuggling of Iraqi dinar and such. I have thought we would see 1. July, because they have had things in place since April.
Caller: I saw that there was an extension until the 9th of july, and then they have 30 days to take it to Congress, etc.
Tony: All we need is a deal that Congress can agree on. Iran has the same thing: they have to send it to their parliament, religious leaders, etc. They still have to have a frame-work that everyone can agree to. In either case, they have to have a plan for dealing with the currency, etc. Remember, the various rulings of the Supreme Court have nothing to do with the RV, but they do make the President feel good, and that means it’s a good time to do the RV.
Caller: Is the main bank in Mosul back in Iraqi hands?
Tony: Not that I know of. Pam says that I’m confusing the issue with too much information. Every single I and T doesn’t have to be in place for this to go – so long as there is enough agreement and they know what they are doing, then these things can go on. It’s the same with Greece. They want everything to go by Tuesday, but the RV can go at any moment in time. Everything is falling into place, and that is why our administration is saying GO. We are ready, and Iraq is ready, and the IMF is saying “Hey can we wait a minute?” As soon as the IMF comes into agreement, then this will go. Meanwhile, the banks are gearing up around the world, sending out memos saying this is about to happen. Look at their actions. They are ready to do this now.
281: I have a couple of comments, if I may. If Obama had his win with gay marriage, and that is against Biblical principles, how can that be a win? If he is happy and this now can got, then it must have been this administration holding this up. So now he can get what he wants, but they are in violation of God’s law.
Tony: I have said several times that the Supreme Court decisions have NOTHING to do with the RV. The TPP does have an impact on the RV, because there are currency concerns. I’m just telling you that we make different decisions when we are feeling good than when we are feeling stressed. You don’t go to a party when you have a flat tire, but if you can fix it right away and wash the car, then you are happy going to the party. We are not here to talk about politics or religion, just to discuss the RV.
Caller: I heard the BRICS bank is to go active between the 5th and the 10th, and that might help Greece. Is that something we are looking for?
Tony: I don’t know.
Caller: I appreciate everything you do. I have a great love for this country, I love everyone and I’ve been all around the world. I have no problem with people but do have a problem with when it comes to God’s law.
Tony: I’m looking at a text that says, “Are you saying that all dealers will not have the ability to honor their reserve contracts?! If I paid for my reserves, why can’t I have them?” I didn’t say this is 100% or every dealer, but my opinion is that 80-90% will not get their reserves in time. You can go on expecting a miracle and hoping it happens, or you can move onto Plan B. I talked to several dealers who planned to take months to stretch our those reserves. There are legitimate dealers doing legitimate business. There are some who are not, and some of those have already been shut down. For others, the small print would allow them to keep the currency and send back your dollars. I’m just saying to have a Plan B.
Pam: I think it’s time to call it a day and have a great weekend. I want to thank IdahoUSA for all she does, and Irene who working on donations to pay the bill for this call. Go to www.tntdinar.com and make a donation if you want to keep hearing Tony. If you don’t want to, then don’t donate. I feel great! It’s going to be a great weekend!
Ray: Someone said to call this Finish-it Friday – so finish it!
Tony: We don’t get information out of Iraq after the sun goes down there. We know they are ready to go. If you got anything out of today’s call, the US ifs ready to go and pushing for it. Iraq is ready, and explaining to their people on television that they are ready to be the richest country in the region. We know people are using the cards, so we know it’s international. Their banks were open last Saturday and will be open again tomorrow to do business internationally. Banks got memos saying there is agreement between the IMF and the US. It just doesn’t get better apart from having the actual announcement. They just want to resolve Greece and we hear that might be today. If not, they will develop a Plan B. The same is true for Iran. They are down to two decisions, and then we’ll be ready to go. All we can do is wait for the results of those meetings. See if they get an agreement in place and know that things will change shortly after that. Make your plan because the clock is ticking and you will soon be putting it into effect. “Failing to plan is planning to fail”; don’t be a toothless crackhead, have a plan and know how to implement it. And enjoy your day and your weekend!
TNT Call notes 24-June-2015
Dr Kyre Adept
Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today is Wednesday, June 24, 2015. It’s another beautiful sunny day in California, and we are about to get this party started!
Let’s talk about some other stuff besides the RV… no, I’m joking. There are three last things that are questionable and some attitudes that are definite. Anything else before I get into this? Someone asked me to say that if you give out gifts over $14,000 in a year, YOU pay the gift tax. If you give away half a million dollars, you pay the 40% tax; they get to keep it all. I’m just passing that along – you should check with your accountants.
We are here today; I don’t know that we’ll be here Friday. We’ll see what happens today and tomorrow. The site needs to be paid for in the meantime.
Where’s the RV today? I don’t know. Are there plans to do it today? Yes… but there is another plan to do it tomorrow and another plan for Friday. On Monday, I will tell you how close we were to doing this, and how close it really is at this moment. At Monday at 11.59 pm, a certain bank was set to do exchanges with their institutional clients. At 12.01 they were supposed to bring the rates forward for non-institutional clients. This was in writing, and passed out through global organizations. “It is anticipated that the public will have access to the exchange on Wednesday.” That’s how it was supposed to go, and yet here we are.
What went wrong? Why didn’t we do it then? What keeps holding this back? There are a couple of options. On Monday we talked about Iran. We have always say Iran was not an issue, because there was always going to be a deal with Iran. However, that deal was not accepted. So they came up with a different deal, and that wasn’t accepted. So it got extended again for this deal to be done. We think that deal has now been done even though we haven’t seen it in public yet. We’ll see if that happens by June 30th – that is the date they have set, or earlier. Then there is the TTP – 48 hours ago that was an issue, but the final vote is being taking this afternoon, and then we’ll know if it’s still an issue.
The other issue was Greece. They put together an agreement, and their Parliament didn’t accept it, so that agreement fell apart. It was supposed to go last night but it fell apart and now they are having emergency meetings. Their deadline is also 30. June.
Those things were supposed to be worked on, agreed, and no longer issues, but it’s typical of negotiation to go right up to that deadline, back and forth. In all three of those situations, the RV itself is being used as a bargaining chip, or as a threat, or as a gift, depending on how you look at it. But it is being used, and abused, and causing us to be confused. The RV itself has been done, but the international announcement is being used as a bargaining trip. In Iraq, they are upset it is being used in this manner by others, but they are forced to live with the consequences. They were ready to make an announcement, and if it goes well this afternoon, they will make that announcement. If today’s meetings don’t go well, it could be tomorrow, Friday or Saturday.
None of these were requirements because everyone thought those three would just go through. However, they have each run into problems and now the RV is being used as a bargaining chip. If Greece doesn’t come up with a solution and they leave the EU, then that could be an issue for the GCR, because that will affect all their agreements with other countries, and it will even affect the IMF itself. If they don’t come up with a plan, it would still be like the US banks – too big to fail. Yet they did fail and that hurt everyone. Greece is saying, “So what are you going to do about that?! If we fail, you will feel it, too!” That doesn’t give them any consequences for their own actions. Still, the EU and IMF will not let Greece drown or die of starvation, and Greece knows that. You can wipe out their Parliament, they can go through this for another six months and have to negotiate it again. But that would take time.
We are within six days of knowing the end results here: do we have an agreement with Iran? If not, we have an issue. The same with Greece – we’ll know within six days. And the TPP is going to the vote this afternoon, so we will know. Right now, we are waiting to see if they are going to drag it out or not… but they could surprise us.
In Iraq’s newspapers, they are saying there is a problem with the rate: 1200 in one place, 1166 in another, up to 1400 in another place. It’s the mafia and the black market, so how do they get that under control before they announce the RV. The best way to get that under control is to announce the RV, and then they have the same rate in the banks, on the streets and in the world. Plus they go from being a paper country where people can manipulate the system to an electronic system where the government sets the rate. They could solve that issue in ten minutes and they could be on their way.
So I’m waiting to see what they are telling their people today. For the last month, they have been saying that they are about to become the wealthiest country in the region, that people’s MasterCards are loaded and all the rest. The CBI gave banks the money to pay people out of the country, kind of like an IMF loan.
I know that Greece could get resolved, that the TPP will be resolved this afternoon, and that there is tentative agreement with Iran. The meeting with Greece was last night and they are trying to get an agreement today, and then this can go. Yes, it could go on and on forever, but all sides are saying that if they don’t have agreement by the 30. June, they will have to come up with something else. TPP is down to the last two issues. (TPP is the TransPacific Partnership, which like the NAFTA.)
If it doesn’t go through, what is Plan B and how long does it take to implement Plan B so that we can go on? This is my opinion based on information I have received, putting that together. I still think we are in a great position and people are very excited.
Someone sent me a text: “Nothing you mentioned today has been a problem before. Why were they not problems for the elite? Are you just placating the masses?” Nobody expected those three to be problems; those issues cropped up along the way. These are not Iraqi issues, although it’s a chance for the negotiators to use the RV as a bait, a whip, a carrot. That is how negotiation works: they get to the last minute and then say “Oh, there is one more thing I want you to do!”
All Greece has to do is to say they will do the right thing, this is how they intend to solve the problem, so give us our money! But Greece is saying, “No, we don’t want to do that, we don’t see how to pay your money back.” A billion dollars a day is being withdrawn from Greece’s banking system! Eventually they will have to do what the others want them to do. And with Iran, that has been quiet in the last month. We know that Maliki gave them lots of currency that they are planning to sneak across the border. They have a Plan B for that situation and we’ll see where we go from there. Then TPP: that was not a problem, but they needed to iron out a few details.
Once the RV goes through, the position of EVERY country will change. Their reserves values and net worth and economics will instantly change. Because of that, their people’s ways of thinking will change.
Here’s an example: If you and I worked at the same place, and were living close together, and let’s say you don’t have a car. I pick you up at 7.10 every morning, and you ask if it can be at 7.20, and I say, “No, I have to go at 7.10; do you want to ride with me or not?” Maybe the next day, the driver wants to go at 7.20, even if the other person is ready at 7.10. Another time, the driver has to go to the store, and the rider can go or not go. Then the rider gets his own car, and is independent from the driver. He can go to the store, go to work when he wants or whatever, and if he doesn’t want to help the original driver, he can choose that instead.
There are countries who are like toothless crackheads or lottery winners. They never planned for that much money, and even if they do have plans, once this goes live, it will be different. The people who made the plans will make a lot of money and retire, and new people will come in. So everyone negotiating now wants to wring the last drop from this while they can.
I’m skipping around with the phone calls today.
410 caller: I think you chose a great way to explain this. We push things off to the very end because we think it gets better. I appreciate this description. I think everyone wants to get this done by the 30th rather than pushing it into the uncertain future. Are we still expecting a ten-minutes to 12 hours gap before the last call?
Tony: We still don’t know the package, or if we will be allowed to do a last call. If they don’t give out the information or let us talk about it… well, it will be quite a ride.
Caller: Thanks! See you in Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
432 caller: When’s the bus coming by?
Tony: I don’t know! It could be any time… there is no window, although I guess we are looking at the 30th. That’s not a window, just a point of transparency after which we’ll know if it’s going to happen or not with those three issues I mentioned. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
407 caller: Thanks for skipping around today! [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
757 caller: I have a military question. I’m military and you said that Texas doesn’t have state taxes. Will I be affected by state taxes in another state?
Tony: You’ll have to ask an attorney or accountant. This IS One-question Wednesday!
Caller: Please give Pam my number and ask her to add me to the forum.
404 caller: It seems that we are dealing with a timing issue; are we acquiescing to the US bankers, or are we honoring the Iraqi banking system? Are we looking at Friday after Hawaii banks close? That would be late EST and the banking transactions don’t really show up until late on Monday.
Tony: For a long time, it was a banking issue, and they allowed Iraq to choose the time so long as it’s between X and Y times. Now it’s based on Iraq’s time of day or night, and they are supposed to have it first, ahead of everyone else. So it might not have anything to do with our banking hours, so Iraq can have it first, overnight. Now people are so frustrated, they just want Iraq to do it whenever they can. That was before Iran, Greece and the TPP. The closer we get to that final day, the more the negotiators want to use the RV as a bargaining chip – possibly on both sides. Any time you are dangling food in front of a hungry person, they may not be thinking clearly and they may be more focused on get food and clothes – those may be worth more than waiting six months. They might want to give up certain things to get this done. It’s terrible for us, because people are losing houses and cars, but it’s not affecting every US citizen, it’s just affecting us, and on the other side it’s affecting the entire country. I try to put these things in perspective every time I hear about them. I don’t have the luxury of getting upset. I need money just like everyone else, and my mother wanted to see this before she passed away. But knowing what I know, I have to say it’s bigger than any of us, and I don’t have the luxury of getting upset. People want me to get mad, because none of these things prevented people being paid two years ago. I don’t mind a fight for what’s right, when it’s the right time. We what we did at the right time, but this is not the right moment to do what people want us to do. This could be over in the next five hours, or it could take six days to see it won’t work and we have to go to Plan B.
Caller: I’ll got with the five hour possibility rather than six days. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
815 caller: I’ve been doing this since September of last year, and I kept hearing that the US was putting the blocks on, and then a few months ago they gave the green light to Iraq, is that right? Well, Iraq had the okay and then they have been dragging their feet for 3-4 months and now there are these other issues coming up. Why didn’t the IMF give them a deadline then, that if Iraq didn’t release it, they would revalue the other currencies and those countries could have the economic boom?
Tony: None of the other currencies have their value without the dinar. Iraq was sometimes told they could go but they were manipulated and in fact they couldn’t get this done at that moment. Iraq is really frustrated now, and they are ready to give out a new explanation of why they didn’t do it: those three issues we’ve been discussing. That was not their fault. They wanted to do it in April and May; they were not able because it got blocked because there were other things we weren’t privy to. Tony knows a whole lot, but he doesn’t everything, that’s for sure. I tell people that all the time. I read and study a lot, but sometimes there is a hidden agenda and things are being blocked for a reason. They said that all the time but we didn’t believe that they would drag it out for this long for those purposes. That is how they play the game!
The other things I am telling you about now that some believe and some don’t – those were part of the plan two years ago. People don’t want to believe it, but there it is. This is global negotiation; there is no way to keep the politicians out of it. WE were never supposed to be part of this at all!
Caller: Well, thanks for the information. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
941 caller: How much longer will ‘we the people’ stand by and tolerate what they are doing to us?
Tony: That’s what I’m trying to get across – they are not doing anything to US. The Twitter campaign was about us, but these delays are about negotiating with Greece, Iran and Asia. It’s not about us, and we don’t go to cause a problem with our government when they are negotiating globally.
Caller: This administration are control freaks and they are messing it up.
Tony: Let’s say you are correct. Is it our place to go in there and force the government to make decisions that involve other countries.
Caller: This is making us look really bad… the US, the greatest country in the world.
Tony: Again, that is not something that is our business to deal with. That’s for people to settle in the voting booth, that 350 million American citizens are involved with, not just six million dinarians.
Caller: The biggest problem is that the controllers are controlling this through the administration, and that’s why the new people can’t stand up for the constitution. [More of the same] A lot of politicians are resigning and that’s good because we can put other people and get back on the right path again. But the same people control the news…
Tony: That is your job, to look at people more closely and make better decisions. This is the difference between now and five years ago: the mainstream media do not control the internet here or in other countries. So make a noise there if that’s what you feel you should do. That is not what we are here to do, right now. I know what’s going on out there. I was in law enforcement, and I always watch the news, all the time.
313 caller: [Appreciation]
Tony: We do these calls three times a week and gather all our intel to keep you guys informed on what’s happening.
Caller: Did you say Iraq will try to do it today, tomorrow or Friday?
Tony: I said that Iraq COULD do it any time, as soon as they choose or these issues are worked out.
Caller: Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! If you don’t do the event, you’ll still be there, right? Can you tell us when and where to find you?
Tony: I’ll do my best; we’ll figure it out. I didn’t want to give anything away in case they right it into my NDA and prevent it!
416 caller: I’ve been with you since day 1; I remember when we hoped you were going to the bank and you got an hot dog instead! When you left PTR, and you didn’t want to but Montana and Already Blessed set it up. Pam is still there; what happened to Montana?
Tony: When we set up the first time, they kept telling me not to tell people what was happening. I like to live in the moment, and I wanted to keep the information flowing. I didn’t realize that I was an employee, and they said that of the 20K people, only 200 were listening to ME! So they said that if I started another site, there would only be 200 people. Well, if that is what happens, so be it. I wasn’t going to change, and I wanted to give people the information. I don’t even come on this call unless there are 25,000 or more on the line. Pam does the number, and she said that on the various lines and stations, and we have 300 people listening to the calls and recording, and DC says we reach up to 1,30 million. I still talk to people at the old place, and now they only have 200 people, while we have thousands of people listening in the government, in Iraq, and all over.
Caller: Will we ever see Winston again? Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: We know that Winston has a new responsibility and it’s sensitive. Also, we weren’t paying him, and they are! It’s a position where he cannot have a high profile. He’s got a wife and children to feed, and he has to do what he has to do.
Montana was here for a long time; she actually went with Exogen/Stage3Alpha, and also she wrote a book. If it wasn’t for her and Pam, I wouldn’t have done this at all.
816 caller: [Background noise] Some time ago, you said that certain laws that would be required to make this go. What would now make them get this done?
Tony: The first thing they couldn’t do is refuse to pay us, because others have been paid. In Iraq itself, they have already initiated the budget and done other contracts, so they will have to do this eventually.
Caller: I heard someone say there would be an extension on the zim until September.
Tony: I fully expect an extension but haven’t seen that announcement. I expect that Zimbabwe will do something different in the country than internationally. I have seen the rate on the screen and I am not concerned.
Caller: The closer we get to 30. June, more nervous a lot of people are getting. A lot of people are struggling and need for this to go. Didn’t Iraq get paid on the Qi cards?
Tony: So if the zim doesn’t go, what are you going to do? Still hold onto the currency, right? It will change eventually. In Iraq, they have loaded the MasterCards and allowed their banks to exchange foreign currencies on Saturdays, internationally. The article says that they can exchange all foreign currencies, so there has to be some kind of rate some-where or they cannot exchange any currency. They will have to let us exchange soon.
Caller: Let’s hope it’s by Friday! Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: Pam, I think that’s enough for today.
Pam: We are all a little disappointed with the direction this has been going, but it’s been changing all the time, like a 3-D puzzle. Hang in there, and we’ll be here as long as we can stay here.
Tony: Ray? All I can really say is that we are there. A lot of people were excited all last week and this week, thinking this would go and that it would be smooth sailing because they should have made the agreement with Greece. The word was that Iraq would make the announcement this morning, but there were still issues with Greece, Iran and possibly the TPP. I do think these issues are being worked out. The rates are the same at the bank, and the bank people are still on standby, ready to go this week as soon as they are called. Iraq is disappointed not to make their announcement today as they expected.
Hopefully there will be an announcement by Friday and failing that by the cutoff date next Tuesday. Articles are often two days behind. If we hear something super-fantastic, we will make the call. Otherwise, hang in there, and enjoy your day!
JUNE 22 2015
MONDAY
TNT Call notes 22-June-2015
Dr Kyre Adept
Tony: Friday there was no call recording… I thought I pressed the right button, but nothing came back. It was totally Tony’s fault… technical difficulties! Pam, you press the button, please!
Good morning, TNT! Today is Monday, June 22, 2015. We are here once gain. We didn’t expect to and don’t want to be. I will give you the information as it is. I think we are in a good window or timeframe, and I was hoping we would never be here again. I really hoped Friday would be my last call. I love you and miss you, but… I’m with you that this should be done. I can’t see many things getting in the way of this
They called me this morning with the last bill; I hope this will be the last one. If things go right, we will not be here again. But we have to do what we have to do to get through this. [Pam: People can’t hear you!] Maybe I need to speak up more.
Everyone was geared up over the weekend, with banks and finance and Iraq all in place. Iraq paid people over the weekend, and some got two years of back pay, while others got what is currently due. They were paid on their MasterCards; that article come out over the weekend from Iraq. People in Jordan and the US can use their cards at the international rate, which is over three dollars when they use their MC right now. Also, Iraqi banks were open on Saturday, as they said they would.
On Iraqi television, they are back to playing announcements from a month ago. That’s where we are as far as Iraq. On their television they are still talking about how they will have the highest currency in the region. Our guy has been told he would be paid for the last three Sundays, and yesterday he was actually paid. On Saturday they were passing out the lower denominations and telling them how to use them. It’s confusing for every-body that they have different rates in different provinces. They have also talked on Iraqi television that they are catching fraud and money laundering. They are also discussing the emergency meeting about changing rates in the dollar’s rise against the dinar. This is live on television, all day. My personal feeling is that people are doing things because they know that it’s about to convert, so they are bringing in more dinar for each dollar so that they can make more money. Someone is letting that happen – it’s not an accident.
In the US, there were some exchange centers open in various places. The memo went out to the banks telling them to prepare for a rush on the banks Friday and Saturday. It didn’t happen, but it shows how close we are. The rates are there, they can see the rates, although we didn’t have anyone attempt transactions at the weekend or this morning. Everyone is more than prepared for this to go as soon as they can.
Today is the 22nd, and I never thought we would be here today because of everything that has been accomplished. I’m not going to go into the rates, because what they are seeing is a little crazy, as far as I’m concerned. Right now, there is a ‘first mouse scenario’, and you’ve been on long enough to know what that means. The only thing I can say is that you internet guys should know when you can see the first mouse in action. You should already know what I’m saying here. It’s first mouse vs second mouse vs cheese factory, so don’t ask me questions about that, or they will be jumping all over us.
What else? I see a good day, everything is done, no one is fussing and fighting. We are just waiting, although I don’t see a reason for us to wait at this point. Everybody is always asking me what I think the reasons for any holdup might be, but I don’t see any reasons right now… unless they are really waiting to see what happens with Iran. We are eight days for that conclusion with Iran. Last time we were waiting for that decision, and it didn’t happen. Whatever the final decision, it will have some impact on the dinar and the Middle East, but we don’t know what that will be. What reason does Abadi have to tell his people that he’s going to do it and then not do it? The only thing I can come up with is that it’s something to do with Iran. If everything else has gone this far, and we’ve dropped these windows of opportunity drop this far… everyone around the world was geared up for this to happen on Sunday, with people in the exchange centers, and it still didn’t happen. Of course it can happen an hour from now, or today, tomorrow, Wednesday. If it continues to NOT go, the only thing I can see is the Iran situation and maybe some of the other currencies.
Meanwhile, I’m here and we have to pay the bills. It is what it is.
828 caller: The thing with Iran, is that at the end of June?
Tony: they are supposed to make a decision by 30. June.
Caller: I have heard that they are printing a lot more dinar to make some last-minute cash, and that until they stop that, this can’t happen. What do you think?
Tony: WHO is doing that? The people of Iraq? The 2-5 people who are holding up the entire world so they can make another billion or so? People in the US?
Caller: I heard it’s people in Iraq, but don’t know if that is true. I wondered if your intel has said anything about that.
Tony: This is like the last call, where people want me to explain someone else’s post that I no nothing about. The dinar are printed in Texas. You’re suggesting someone is asking the Mint to print an extra billion or so and ship it over to Iraq so they can get richer? Or is Iraq printing their own currency… despite having a recall for the last two years? That doesn’t make any sense to me. If they are withdrawing the higher denomination notes, why would the print more instead of just calling the RV?
508 caller: I hate to bring up a touchy subject…
Tony: Don’t bring it up, then!
Caller: Regarding our friends at Sterling, I appreciate that the FBI are looking after our interests and trying to nip fraud in the bud. But when they do that, and take all Sterling’s possessions including the dinar that US citizens have paid for, I would hope they might put a management team that will do a middle of the road course that will allow people who have paid for currency to receive it. That’s all I have to say on that.
Tony: You expect a whole lot!
Caller: The government is supposed to be protecting us, but they are not protecting me if there is dinar and dong that I’ve paid for but don’t have access to. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: You obviously do not have all the information. There is nothing negative about Sterling. Prepare for the worst, that’s all I can tell you. You can hope for the best but prepare for the worst.
Caller: I know we have a majority of good folks in Congress protecting US citizens, and if they are listening, maybe they could do some investigation in light of what’s going on with Sterling. It would be nice if they could step in so that we could protect our interests here.
617 caller: Friday you said that Iraq had a date and that you knew it too. Has it passed?
Tony: It was scheduled for over the weekend. Everyone was there, they opened the banks and put the money on the cards. They were just supposed to wake up to it on Saturday or Sunday morning, but they didn’t even wake up to it this morning. It’s Monday and I won’t get the real information until after the call. So far as I know, they have made no attempt to release the RV at all. It’s in the banking system, and Iraq is now connected internationally or those guys couldn’t use their cards. The question is “When do they make it public for the rest of the world?” They are doing something great for their own citizens, and that is good that they can have more spending power. They were really happy this weekend. Now it’s just about going public so that the whole world can take part.
Caller: Is there a maximum amount of time in order for them to let us have this?
Tony: There is always a plan, but they have blown past so many windows… as the day goes on, the meeting doesn’t go right, the road takes a different turn… that’s what we have to live with until this actually happens.
Caller: About Friday’s call, there were many people going over things in the past, and that means people with real questions are not being answered. Those negative people need to stay off the call to let people have answers about the present and the future.
Tony: I agree with you, there is no benefit to that. At the moment, the best thing is to look at what’s happening now. The rates are there, and contract rates are still available. You still have an opportunity if you are smart to maximize what you have. You’ve had an whole week to reconsider your plans, and if you were really smart, you’d be thinking of how to change direction if you need to.
Caller: Law of Attraction says that you need to use positive thinking and words, so let’s focus on that. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
404 caller: Do we still need windows, or is this now on continuous readiness?
Tony: I can’t see the reason for any delays. It should have been done already! There is no reason to keep saying it’s ready to go. Are they really trying to drag this out, go to the end of June to see what that decision is? They keep telling their entire country things like the 17th, the 18th, then the 19th. It should have gone this weekend, and yet we’re still here. Why do they go through that exercise and get the people all excited, unless they were expecting something else?
Caller: when this doesn’t happen is there any notification or explanation?
Tony: You mean, when they lock people down, tell them not to go further than 30 minutes from their house or office, and all the rest, and then it doesn’t happen? No, they don’t. It just didn’t’ happen. You’re waiting and waiting, and then a day or two later you’re on standby again. That’s what happened.
Caller: My sympathies to all those involved. At the weekend, there seem to have been a lot of meetings with CBI and the interim head. How secure is he in that position? We know that Dr. Shabibi is the main mover; does the interim guy have to be pushed aside for us to see action here?
Tony: That’s the same question you asked on Friday! We don’t have to have him removed to see the RV, or he would already have been moved. Dr. Shabibi is central and this is his plan.
Caller: Thank you for all your information. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: Pam sent me a link to the guy who is doing the TNT super-fantastic shirts, hats and coffee cups. He’s done a great job! I have my own shirt and I love it. I want you all to have the opportunity to have these, and my daughter wants one; I wouldn’t set them up myself, but I don’t mind if he sells them. However, Pam reminded me that we don’t let other people do business on the site, so…
Somebody sent me a text and told me that I should know it’s insulting to talk about ‘the little guy’ and the all the Texans riding ‘the short bus’ because some people really do ride the little bus. That’s been a joke about Texas for two years because it seems every time I did a call, people would get on a bus and go to the bank. DC (who is from Texas) told me that Homeland was tracking that! So it’s only a joke between me and Texas.
813 caller: You said Baghdad would get this last; how are your people there doing?
Tony: They’re terrible! They talk to their friends and family elsewhere who have already got the new rates, and they are frustrated. However, they know that they will be getting it, and that they will be final people, they are remaining calm. But every time Abadi gives a date and it doesn’t happen, that affects the credibility of their government.
Caller: Thanks. Keep the faith and Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
410 caller: I can’t imagine that the people of Iraq cannot be frustrated about all this. I hope it gets resolved, even though they cannot go to Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: Remember, Iraq had a dictator for years, and every province or territory has their own dictator or leader who says “these are the rules here” or “this is the rate here” unless and until someone comes there and tells them otherwise. Maliki didn’t care, and Abadi has been fighting ISIL. So they might not be ready for a unified rate. Baghdad can’t go to Kurdistan and tell them what rate they should use, when Kurdistan comes back with “well, we’re not going to treat our people the way you are in Baghdad!”
Caller: No, the purpose is to unify and get along with each other. I guess there might still be some lingering influence from Maliki…
Tony: Different areas have different command structures, and they are trying to solidify that with the new laws. People here still take liberties, and we’ve had unified law for 200 years! It’s a new deal for Iraq. We see them trying to unify people and that is why they still have different rates. Yes, Maliki has influence with the army, the government and people who still support him.
President Obama made a speech yesterday that we in the US still have issues from 200 years ago that we still haven’t got over. How can we expect Iraq to get over their differences in 11-12 years. The things we want to force them to do cannot be done overnight. They are killing people in Iraq, yes; but they kill 20-30 every night in our big cities, and we don’t hear about that. If twenty people get killed in Iraq, it’s all over CNN; if twenty people get killed in Chicago, it might make the local news.
Caller: I’ll finish so that others can ask questions. We appreciate all that you guys share with us, and your insights on this tricky situation. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
347 caller: There are articles regarding the zim. Is it still in the first basket? What about these reports that 100 trillion note will get $5 in exchange? Is that inaccurate?
Tony: The rate is on the screens. I don’t know what the rate is in Zimbabwe; that’s the situation in Zimbabwe. They are not happy about it, but that’s the way it is. I can see the zim rate on the screen, but they have asked me not to give out rates at this critical point.
Caller: So where are me now?
Tony: We are ‘at any second’. Worst case, they may be dragging this out three days at a time until they make a decision about Iran. A lot of dinar went across the border, and I would think that if they release the RV, that would be a decision in itself. With everything else that is set to go, I don’t see anything else stopping this apart from corruption in the system. They have been addressing that in Iraq with articles about arresting Maliki for letting Mosul fall and also money-laundering. They have found the money Maliki hid, and it’s hundreds of billions of dollars. These are all steps to stabilize the dollar against the dinar. They are still saying Iraqi dinar will be the highest value in the region. It could happen any day, at any moment.
585 caller: Do you know of anyone exchanging in the US in the last few weeks?
Tony: No one has exchanged so far as I know, because they expected this to go. All I know is that exchange locations in Dallas were open on Sunday. Some people say other locations were open in other parts of the country.
Caller: Does ‘first mouse’ apply to the public rate, the contract rate, or both?
Tony: The ‘first mouse scenario’ applies to public/international rates. The contract rates are not stable; they are negotiated based on how much you have, how long you will keep it with them, etc.
Caller: You’ve already said you think it might have to do with the Iran thing, and that worries me because I suspect they will ask for an extension…
Tony: In Iraq, the banks were open on Saturday and they loaded the MasterCards on Sunday. They cannot do that without a rate; MC has to know what the international rate is so they can deal with it. That has to come out to the public pretty quickly, even if MC has to make the announcement.
Caller: Some articles are now saying “Iraq has split into three factions; it is no longer a single country.” If that is possible, how does it affect this?
Tony: Anything is possible. Three years ago they even drew up maps with the borders, and who would get what. However, it is not anyone’s desire. Even if the new currency has writing in Shi’a, Sunni and Kurdish languages to make them feel included, they still want it to be one country. However, they are not going to be unified and lovey-dovey overnight; too many things have happened. If our own President is saying we are still not unified after 200 years, then we cannot expect Iraq to do it in 12 years. A baby can’t just stand up, run around and defend itself. However, we can support the baby that is Iraq, and we will support and defend that, even as Iraq’s wounds are still too open and raw to heal without our help.
Caller: If our politicians and head of military and defense minister are saying it’s three separate factions, what will happen to our currency? Kurdistan’s currency would be worth more than Iraq’s, because they have more of the oil.
Tony: No, because the separate factions cannot support individual currencies or even governments. They will adjust, but it will be long after this RV happens. So let’s hope that this possible separation never happens.
702 caller: I’ve been on the calls about eight months. Take my number so I can get to Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: Whether we have an event or not, I will be in Vegas immediately after this happens, because that is my vacation. So let’s all meet in Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
941 caller: This seems like a ‘what if’ day, but there is no ‘what if’. It will happen and then we will see how it works. The US is buying our dinar, right? So what happens in Iraq should have nothing to do with us. In my opinion, the US administration is holding this up for whatever reason. It’s not Iraq’s money now; it belongs to the US when we turn it in.
Tony: We’ve gone back and forth with that. The US was holding it up, but my guys are now saying they don’t know why it’s being held up. They were saying it was this minor thing or that tiny thing, or someone got pissed off and won’t let anyone make a dime off their country because they insulted X. We have to get past all that, but the system itself is ready. Our banking contacts say that it will take two minutes to release this once they are told they can do it.
Caller: The exchange centers should be able to exchange if this is international.
Tony: The exchange centers are run by the banks. They cannot exchange until there is an official exchange rate that is shown on Forex. They can push it through as soon
Caller: There are some numbers that always get through and some don’t have a chance.
Tony: How long have you been listening? Since PTR? I look at the board and I start at the top, with the people who have been waiting the longest. The longest one has been on 481 minutes, and you have been on 250 minutes. I don’t know how or why they stay on that long, but they do. These calls are on the internet, not the free conference call. You can dial in, but my board doesn’t go live until 15 minutes before the call. Every time I answer from the bottom, it pushes me back to the top.
Caller: But some of these people ask the same questions every time, like 404 and 828. There are a lot of people who want to get, and people should take that into account and be considerate. [chitchat] You don’t look at people for what they are but who they are. God bless America. Let’s hope we can get this money and turn this thing around.
916 caller: About trusts… we haven’t been able to secure 501c3…
Tony: You don’t want me, you want Ray. I am giving him your name and number.
Caller: Thank you. Sacramento, Sacramento, Sacramento!
Tony: We will definitely have a meeting in Sacramento as well as Vegas!
716 caller: I’ve been with you since the beginning of PTR, and I don’t know how you do it! It’s got to be frustrating for you. I’ve been on the calls three times per week for six years. I’m a positive person, but there are a lot of negative people who think this will never happen. I don’t’ have questions, just wanted to give you an ‘atta boy’. Also: Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
713 caller: Are there traffic jams leaving Baghdad for the regions that have a rate?
Tony: If I lived in Baghdad, I would have moved to Kurdistan five years ago! I don’t know what’s going on over there, but Kurdistan has a better democracy, newer cities, and all the rest. I don’t know how easy it is to move around Iraq.
Caller: It seems we’ve been going down this road for so long that the carrot has lost its string. Are the MasterCards for government people or the general public?
Tony: The person we know is not a government worker, he is a contractor. He and his family are using his MC in two countries internationally.
Caller: So if the MCs have been loaded, what are we waiting for?
Tony: If I knew that, I would be as rich as Donald Trump! They did the cards on Sunday and Saturday the Iraqi banks went international. Everything they were owed for the last two years was also paid on Saturday. They are doing something unconventional; maybe it’s their own kind of slow rollout. We are the last ones, and we cannot upset the applecart by acting crazy. I wish I could explain it but we only have parts of the plan. They are still telling us to stay prepared and be ready! Okay, I’m ready!
Caller: Since you have such a great rapport with the government guy who asked us to stand down on “we are the people”, what possibility is there for them to make some arrangement on Sterling reserves? I have spent thousands on reserves, and I think that is how many people have bought their currency.
Tony: A lot of times I have said before that when I was in MLM, people would say, “I wish I were you” and my reply would be, “If you were me, you’d shoot yourself in the head.” Of course, I would never commit suicide, but you get the point. When we were doing the Twitter campaign, my family and I were being followed, threatened, files were made in the intelligence services. You have no idea how you are looked at with those highest levels when your neck is sticking out like that. I was fortunate to have some very high people in government who said, “He’s only trying to help, so back off.” It was hard, especially when I was trying to do the right thing. You have no idea what you are asking… the people who would get upset and the damage it could do if we start that up again. This is real life, not a movie or a fairy tale. Most people would be scared to death to have people following them, taking pictures, tracking your ATM. You guys REALLY don’t know what is going on with Sterling, why it’s happening or what it would take to bring it out. We are this close, let’s get what we can get, make a new plan and get the best you can. After this is over, then you can talk to these people.
Caller: I have seen a third-party article about the responsibilities owed to the public; have you heard that?
Tony: Look at Sterling’s site – there is a statement. Meanwhile, this is ready to go at any moment. The only thing I can see dragging this out is catching money corruption and money laundering and/or the situation/negotiation with Iran.
Caller: Please could give my name and number to Pam so that I can get back in the forum? I got kicked out and I don’t know why. My name is Kirkwood on the forum.
407 caller: The man who was talking about the same people getting on all the time… I agree with him. Sometimes Pam tells you to go from the bottom up. I use my cell phone and it will only hold for four hours. There are a lot of people who get on all the time. I’ve been listening for two years, and this is the second time I’ve got on the call.
Tony: If we are unfortunate enough to do a call on Wednesday, I will try to pick others.
Caller: I would love to go to Ray’s workshop, and I notice he doesn’t always answer emails or respond to your giving him numbers. I would love to learn more about trusts and such…
Tony: I will give him your name and number again.
Caller: I really understand what’s going on in Iraq… there are so many factors involved in this RV. On our side over here, what do you think about the powers that be. They know that a change is coming, but they don’t want all these new millionaires or mega-churches to buy the next election. If you have a lot of money like the Koch brothers, you can buy an election. I thnk the powers that be planned this poorly; you have said that this will never happen like this again because they didn’t’ expect us to be in it. Are they making new regulations to control this behind the scenes? Why else a cap on the zim?
Tony: Yes to everything. They have been listening for five years. Every time we discuss something, they put up a new law or a new rule to make sure we don’t do that. They don’t want everyone to become a new Millionaire because they don’t know how to deal with that amount of money. Existing millionaires aren’t using their money well, just leaving it in the banks. On the other hand, they think most of you are ‘toothless crack-head’ who will run through their money in 2-3 years, after which they are not a problem. They are concerned about people they think will be politically influential, and they are trying to cut them off. They never expected six million to have dinar or 25,000 to have zim. So they are trying to control this money with caps. I know people with 300 x 100 trillion notes! So they are trying to control that with a cap of 500 million and then annuity payments for 50 years. That way, they don’t overwhelm the banks, and they can control the cash flow. The delay was not so that WE don’t get this money but fix or negotiate other parts of the situation. However, we were buying money faster than they were fixing the problems. Some people still don’t’ want us to have any of this, but we also have people in the government who see that we’ve gone through it, and see that we have provided education on investments and being good citizens while we wait.
Some new issues have come up, but we are still in the game, we still have an opportunity. It’s not as good a position as before but not as bad as we feared. So far we’ve had two weeks to make an adjustment. Now that’s gone, so let’s do this or that. I’m not going to be specific because every time I mention a currency, the price goes up. Let’s plan on being successful right up to the time. Does that make sense?
409 caller: [Appreciation] I’ve learned bout Iraq and the dinar…
Tony: Let’s call it a day, and hope we don’t have to be here on Wednesday. Pam? Ray?
Pam: I hope we don’t have to be here Wednesday… but we are here for the long haul. We can’t figure out every answer, and we can’t make it happen, we just do the best we can.
Tony: We did expect it over the weekend. It was a great opportunity. MasterCards got paid and we know people using their cards internationally at a rate of over $3. The banks were open in Iraq on Saturday. We are told to stay ready, it could happen any time. The rates have been input in the system, and exchange centers were open at least in Texas, but we don’t know if they did any exchanges or not. People all over the world are on high alert. Everyone is positioned for this to happen. Last time there was a pause, we were told it was a minor glitch. Now people are using their MasterCards internationally at a good rate. I am standby with Pam, Ray and DC, and everyone at the bank has been told to BE ready. Enjoy the rest of your day; hopefully something super-fantastic will happen and we will send out a tweet and get on another call. Also, feel free to harass Pam in chat. [Pam: They do!] Goodbye!
TNT Call notes 19-June-2015
Dr Kyre Adept
Tony: It’s only 96 degrees where I’m at. I have to wait until I get to my magic number! I don’t try to start a call until there are at least 25,000 on the line. The number can climb throughout the call, but I like that many to start.
Good morning, TNT! Today is Friday, June 19, 2015. No, we never, ever, ever expected to be here today. Even on the last call, I said I wouldn’t be upset if I didn’t’ have to do this call, but here I am. I guess they weren’t listening…
What we know is that everyone is still geared up for it, more than ever before.
They told them in Iraq that this thing was going to happen on the 17th – two days ago – that the new rate would come out and be applied then. It didn’t’ happen.
Then they changed it to the 17th or 18th to the 19th. They even moved Ramadan for this, so they could get everything needed to be done before Ramadan. They changed the law so that the banks would be open on Saturday so they could do international business, effective tomorrow. They said those who had cards that have been zeroed out that their cards will be loaded Sunday at a new rate. So Saturday they will do international exchanges, and on their television it shows Abadi saying their taxes will be removed (the 8% on foreign exchanges), and Abadi meeting yesterday and announced changes relating to current laws and fees. They are still saying that from Sunday there would be more purchasing power coming, more than before the sanctions. Abadi is meeting with Russia and other countries. They are showing this on Iraqi television, not here.
However we were sent two videos from Iraq that say this in Arabic: The CBI bank is increasing value of dinar against the dollar starting Saturday. The second video says the dinar will increase in value to $3.34 or more; we know it’s $3.91. That video is being broadcast on their television every three hours. There is no guarantee, but this is what the Iraqi people are getting excited about.
Will it go through this time? I don’t know, but they are getting excited. Banks over here are looking for it. They don’t have 100% confidence, because we are as close as we have ever been, and we hope it happens, but nobody is saying 100%. I’m looking forward for this to go, but also there was an article about whether the system is any better under Abadi than under Maliki. He has had time to change something, and confidence in Abadi is drooping every time he makes a public announcement that doesn’t’ come through.
Everyone has been notified, with positive bank memos in several banks. They are saying something about between now and Monday being a ‘busy time’ (paraphrase). I want us to be excited and I want us to go. I don’t want anyone buying more dinar based on this. The only thing showing on the bank screens as of ten minutes ago is the dinar @ $3.91; the other currencies are not showing right now.
That’s all we know. We’re good! So let’s do this!
352 caller: I’ve been reading some stuff, don’t know whether you have seen what Mtn Goat said: that there wouldn’t be an RV until Dr. Shabibi is back at the CBI. The post was also suggesting that someone is pushing the zim, and it won’t really RV.
Tony: When you bring me stuff that other people say, and it contradicts what we are saying, all I can say is: “that is their opinion” or “they are idiots.” Some people say it’s going to happen in June, then in January, then it’s never going to happen, back and forth all over the place. Either you believe or your don’t. Either you follow the information with common sense or you don’t. The same people are saying “it’s never going to happen” alternating with “it’s happening now!”
I downloaded everybody’s site over the years; I have all their information, all their remarks, and we can see what they said and when they said it. I live in the moment; when it changes, it changes. What I don’t do is to say “It’s never going to happen this month because I’m mad at someone.” It’s not about this law or that law, because Iraq is going to keep making laws, just like we do. They are going to keep creating changes, and a government that grows in stability. It doesn’t happen overnight. If we are waiting for people to stop blowing each other up, it’s not going to happen. We have someone kill nine people yesterday in a church! Over the years they will have a new government and new laws, just like we do. So pick a side and stick to it. Two weeks ago, Mtn Goat said it would go within 72 hours, and now what is that one saying? So it’s not a good idea to ask me what other people are saying, because I might tell you what I think.
Caller: Seems like Mtn Goat is always slamming you and DC.
Tony: That is so – with Mtn Goat, Dave Schmidt, and all the rest. All they are doing is using my name to push up numbers on their site and get paid by their advertisers. We don’t advertise! They are not giving you any new information about anything, all they are doing is talking about Tony or Tony’s information. They don’t have any information of their own, so you need to keep that in mind when you go to those sites. They don’t post anything until after my call – think about that. This isn’t about me, and they are trying to make it about me instead of having a conversation about Iraq, dinar and the RV. I’m just a man who puts on his pants like any other man – just ask my wife!
208 caller: How are you?
Tony: I’m good! I talked to DC this morning, twice, and there is nothing but good news. We are just waiting. If they can change the date of Ramadan, they can change any date they want. How are you?
Caller: I just want to tell you how wonderful you guys are! I have a wealth manager I’m talking to who says the government is trying to find a way to kick us out of this. But I believe you because I have a feeling of honesty from you. Without you, I would have given up a long time ago, me and my group in Idaho. Don’t let anyone hurt you!
Tony: I really appreciate that. Please don’t cry! It’s not just me. We have so many government people (in our government) who believe in this. They are putting their careers on the line to give us this information. There are people in Iraq putting their lives on the line because their people are listening in Iraqi cafés and they want to give them hope. It’s a collective effort with Pam, Ray, DC, and the whole team. This is so much more than Tony.
Caller: When I think of Tony, I think of all the people you must be talking to you. I feel like you are a person who researches deeply, so when I think of Tony, I think of all of you. It’s such a special thing that brought you all together. I hope to meet you one day, and we’ll all celebrate. Thank you so much! Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
805 caller: I’m a little from the opposite of the lady who just called. This is a business call and I’m talking for a bunch of people I’ve been involved with for the last five years. I have some intel that you have, and I don’t’ get it off the internet. A lot of the people I’m responsible for are a little tired and pissed that every Friday it looks like there is going to be a release, and then there is nothing. Why doesn’t DC come on the line and tell what’s going on? It seems really strange that we are at the end of the line and he’s not here.
Tony: We don’t need to have the same conversation every call! DC sent his message, he is doing what he has to do, and he’s not in a position to be on this call. Everyone who has been on this for years knows what he did before he came here, and he is busy doing that. He is a grown man; he knows what is going on, and if he wanted to be here, he would do that. He is doing what he can do. I’m not going to do a call at 5-6am before he goes into his work. So far as he is concerned, this was supposed to be over last Monday. We are beyond flabbergasted that we are still on this call today because we shouldn’t be having this call today.
301 caller: I know you are the middle person and it seems like everyone is coming on you; you are the one bringing the information. To hear that person saying that ii’s like the little boy who cried wolf, and I don’t want to hear we are in a good place. Okay, you are being told “It should happen this day,” and I’m sure it must kill you to have to say that over and over again and then have it not happen. So what is holding this up? At first it was the US, then it went to Iraq, and now Iraq seems not to be releasing the RV. I know it’s all about Iraq, but you have others who have a stake in this, too, and you’re playing with people’s feelings, and I don’t think that’s right.
Tony: Here is the deal. How long have you been doing this? [A year.] We have people who have been in this 10-12 years, and I’ve been in this five years. First, we shouldn’t even been involved with this. It was put in place for the US government and the elite, and not for the ordinary citizen – it wasn’t designed for us. We shouldn’t even be getting the information that we’ve got. The level and context of people who have sent me messages is unbelievable, but that was never supposed to happen. Once we got involved, they couldn’t cut us out, although they tried to cut us out. We are privileged to be here. The information wasn’t designed for us; it was designed for the people of Iraq to come out of poverty and up to the level that will help develop the whole Middle East. It was between the US, Britain and Iraq, and is now between 190 countries because it is now a global currency reset – not just what Clinton did to reduce the US deficit, but for the entire world. We are the smallest part of this entire thing. Every time there is a decision to do it or to not do it, that is not based on us. It’s based on the effect it will have on the US dollar, not how many dollars we get to put in our pockets. It’s based on the effect this will have on the US economy, the Iraqi economy and the global economy. We have to consider ALL the citizens of the US, not just the five million who have dinar. Every time we get closer, one of those million pieces crops up and they have to think again. There are a lot of nuances people don’t’ want to hear or understand about why it didn’t happen that day.
I know it’s frustrating that it should happen every weekend, and I know some of those blocks and pauses are intentional – some other factor came in, or there was sabotage, or there was a glitch in the system. You are all concerned about the dealers, but there is something entirely different going on that I could have told you two years ago. When people get emotional and upset every weekend, I understand that. When you get to that point, that is when you walk away, saying that you have your various currencies and you’re putting in a box, and deciding to listen only on Monday, or whatever. You should tell your group that you will just let them know when it happens and not until then. On our calls we talk about life, finances, and how you will use this money to support the rest of your life. You will have all this money, and eveyrthing the US and Iraq went through, you will be going through on a smaller scale. Until it happens, all I can do is tell you what is happening in the moment. If that is not what you want to hear, you can go to another site where they are flip-flopping every week.
Caller: We understand that, but for THEM to say “this day, that day” and then not do it – that is not fair to the people.
Tony: The people are not even supposed to even have this information!
Caller: Maybe I should have said it’s unfair to the people of Iraq. We know that we will get it after the Iraqi people. So when they keep telling the Iraqi people that it’s going to happen this day or that day… I understand that you are only saying what you are told.
Tony: Is it right to get the Iraqi people’s hopes up and down all the time? NO! It’s hurting Abadi’s credibility to keep doing that. They want to prove they are in charge, so they can do it when they feel like it, but then they miss the opportunity to do it in the prescribed window, then that control will pass them by. There are things happening over there. If they bomb a church right down the street from the CBI, then they are not going to have a celebration that day… or the day they assassinated one of the ministers.
Caller: You said that they have not tested it in the last 2-3 weeks. Will there be a problem when they release the RV?
Tony: All the banks have loaded the rates and they are ready to go when they release this. They haven’t tried to push it through. As far as everyone is concerned today, there will not be a problem when they push it through. It’s not my system and I cannot say for sure, but hopefully when they say GO, it will go!
Caller: I heard someone say on Wednesday that she would try to do her exchange. Won’t that signal more tellers and employees to go buy currency when they see the numbers on the screen? I would sure do that.
Tony: That’s you.. would you really tell ten or twenty people to go out and buy this?
Caller: Yes, if I saw that on the screens, I would tell everyone to buy currency.
Tony: How many bank stories do we get like that every day? Maybe three or four a day. What they do is to put out their own stories. Why do you think there was a news truck outside Sterling 20 minutes before the FBI arrived? Why do you think they have been covering certain court cases? Because they have their own media, and most people will believe the negative rather than seeing the opportunity.
Caller: Okay. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
404 caller: [Appreciation] It appears the Abadi government is having contention with the CBI and the Maliki-appointed governor. Do we need to see that appointee removed and/or Shabibi to come back for the RV to happen?
Tony: Shabibi is just as involved behind the scenes. For a new guy to be appointed means they would have to reconsider and make changes. It’s better to stick with the guy they have at the moment and let this go forward as it is. They wouldn’t be broadcasting that is this about to happen if they were planning changes like that… they would say “in the coming months” if they were planning to change the money and paperwork. They are saying NOW, in the next few days.
Caller: What was said in the mosques this morning, on their holy day at the start of Ramadan?
Tony: I didn’t get the message from the mosque and won’t until after this call. DC told me this was the first day of Ramadan, which is like Thanksgiving. They did tell them that the banks will be open on Saturday so they can be international. They told them the rates are coming and the cards should be reloaded on Sunday. They are saying Ramadan doesn’t make a difference; they just want to get this done.
Caller: Other times when we expected the RV, there were preparations to celebrate. Is anything like that happening?
Tony: They already are celebrating Ramadan. The new plan is not to plan anything until after it happens, because it always gets out. Now they will plan AFTER it comes out. They will not even tell us it’s happened until afterwards. The banks were told to be ready from this moment on, and have their people ready to go. Banks sent out memos to expect a rush of people to their banks.
Caller; So there aren’t a lot of loose ends, you are just waiting for someone to tell you?
Tony: And they are waiting for someone to give them the Go signal! Just do it!
Caller: Happy Father’s Day, and Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
512 caller: We’ve been talking about going back and forth with people, getting mad and frustrated, and now they have moved Ramadan. What is your personal feeling about whether we are going this weekend?
Tony: Everything I’m hearing says that we’re there. We have heard this before; we are not listening to what they are saying, but looking at what they are doing. I’m not even looking over here, I’m looking at what’s happening in Iraq: they are repeating the video every three hours, and they are telling their citizens that there will be 234% increase or $2.34 increase, the translator wasn’t sure. They could get pissed off at someone and it might be blocked again, but everyone over here is being told this IS going. So all I can do is to hope it does and pass on exactly what I’m hearing.
Caller: It’s my wife’s birthday and it would be great to happen today! Thanks for your help and it makes me feel good hearing this positive call. You did the right thing cutting off those negative people earlier.
719 caller: I’m great, figuring out how to spend, save and invest money! At least this has given us time to consider. They say that Abadi went to Russia for a meeting for June 17-19? Have you heard anything about that? Why would Abadi go to Russia – weapons?
Tony: Life goes on and Abadi has a country to run. We were told he will be back in a matter of hours of this happening. He could be back right now.
Caller: Why do you think it has taken Abadi so long to let this go? I think he is a good man, and he obviously wants the best for his people.
Tony: My personal opinion is that there are events happening outside the dinar. In Negotiation 101, you don’t start with the whole list of what you want. You start with 50 out of a hundred, and you do one last thing, yet one more thing right at the last minute. That is what they do. The official date of the RV, I have the day and the time; the rest is about other things before it goes public, the other people who get a bite of the apple. The RV is a foregone conclusion; things are being bought and paid for at that rate. This is about other things: they want more weapons, boots on the ground, and so on. A whole lot of stuff is going on that is really government business, not our business, but that is what has been holding this up. I hear people complaining but we don’t have anything that is directly affecting us, and even if there were something trying to cut us out, you have to know when to take action. So let’s plan, get ready, know where to put your money to make money. Anything other that than means we are just frustrating ourselves.
Caller: If Iraq had their money and we didn’t, then I would be concerned. Iraq has to go first, but at some point, the Iraqis won’t stand for this stop-and-start any more.
Tony: I agree! It’s their money! They are the ones with three hours of electricity per day, no water, and ruins. If they are not complaining, how dare we complain? It’s their money and if they are not complaining, we shouldn’t complain either.
Caller: Without you and your team, we would be lost without any firm information. If people have lost hope, they need to sell their currency back and move on. I just hope that Iraq will be healed. We just saw American Sniper, and the conditions are dreadful, with all their factions, etc. I just pray that this is released – for them.
Tony: We don’t just go through this at the weekends, but many times a day. We are told this is the plan, and then someone comes out of a meeting and it’s all blown to hell again. I’m not sitting over my phone waiting for the time they said, because it doesn’t matter to Iraq that they have gone four hours past that time… they will do it or they won’t.
Caller: Abadi has put out tweets saying he wants everyone to come together. Won’t they look ridiculous if there is no movement by Monday?
Tony: That’s already happened three times. Abadi said it would be released on the 17th, and today is the 19th. That is why there are articles comparing him to Maliki. Every time a date or timeframe passes, that makes him look bad to Iraq and to other countries. It’s really saying that he is not in control, and they negotiated back and forth some more. People were starting to riot in the streets, so at least Abadi changed the rate in-country so that the people could buy some things and enjoy a new level of life. That slowed down the agitation, but now they are expecting more. After they have had some success, this is going to have to go. The rate hasn’t changed in Baghdad, though.
Caller: You said on Wednesday that it didn’t go because some egos came into play…
Tony: It was egos on a couple of different fronts.
Caller: They need to get past that Edging God Out, and release this!
863 caller: Supposedly some dealers were paying people $200 for putting bank stories on the sites – if they are willing pay me a couple hundred dollars, I’m in! Yesterday I was making a deposit at my business bank, Regions Bank, and I asked for the current rates. The lady said it was 39 cents for the dong. Of course I didn’t have any dong with me, so I called my wife, and she flew to the local bank, but of course it wasn’t there any longer. The gal who showed me the screen didn’t even ask me how much I had. I spent the rest of the day going round town checking banks (with my dong). Sure enough, it was 39 cents at the very next bank. That teller had to reload something and log in again; by the time they were ready to take the deposit, it was back at the lower rate again. It was real, first-hand, tangible experience, and it was fun.
Tony: I got that story this morning, so you already posted it, right?
Caller: No, I’m not on the forum.
Tony: I did hear there was a similar story at Regions Bank, at that same rate of 39 cents. We have heard stories over the years of people being in the right place at the right time.
Caller: This is a speculative investment, and everyone is stressed but I’m having fun with this. I did tell everyone on Twitter, and then all the haters come out, which I think is funny.
Tony: Oh, that’s where I saw your story – on Twitter! Thank you for that!
Pam, Ray, let’s call it a day. I enjoyed today and appreciated some of the questions because I know many people have the same issues. I know it’s not about me, and there are some things that we cannot talk about, but the overall objective is NOT to keep us going up and down. They would have preferred for us to have only one call per week or per month – they don’t really want you to have daily information, but I think it’s helped them to develop their plans.
Pam: I am glad you have the patience to deal with those disgruntled people. I just wish we could get paid for all the bank stories on our site! We are here to keep you in the game, and if you don’t want to be here any longer, that’s okay, too. Don’t waste your time or ours.
Ray: This might actually be Finally-gonna-see-it Friday – it is coming.
Tony: These last two weeks, no one has been fussing or fighting. The plan was for this to happen a few days before Ramadan so that people can go to the bank and have money to celebrate. We are hearing now that they don’t if it happens during Ramadan. On Saturday the banks should be open for international banking, and on Sunday they say they will reload that cards with the new rates. You can come to your own conclusions. I’m ready for a super-fantastic weekend. I’m not stressing over anything, especially over the idiots who are not helping you today or in the future.
It’s Father’s Day, so enjoy the weekend with your father, or enjoy it for him. My mother didn’t party, so I used to have a birthday party for her, wherever I was. It’s a good time to be a dinarian.
Pam: Happy Father’s Day to Tony, DC, and Ray – you deserve it!
Tony: And to all the fathers here and elsewhere! Enjoy your day!
TNT Call notes 17-June-2015
Dr Kyre Adept
Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today is Wednesday, June 17, 2015. I hope you are ready for an exciting time! We didn’t think we would be here doing this call. Let’s try this call one more time and see what happens.
Pam told me earlier that someone is passing around that I did three recorded calls this weekend, but I didn’t do anything! Word like that has been going on for years. If I did do that, I would let you know. We have not received any packages or final instructions at this point.
Here’s the deal: Abadi said they would do this by Ramadan, so we want this right now. Some are saying Ramada doesn’t start until tomorrow. It is significant that the banks will be open six days per week rather than five, and they will be open this weekend to work with the international banking community. That is not coincidence.
The MasterCards have been zeroed out, and they should be loaded with the new rates somewhere between today and Sunday, which goes with working with the international banking community. On Iraqi television today, they said that their currency will be more valuable than it was before sanctions were put on Saddam Hussein. They are ready to go.
Over here, everyone is on lockdown, trying to block anyone giving out information, but they are absolutely ready to go.
DO NOT try to hold Iraq or any Arab country to an exact minute of time, like a minute before Ramadan starts or 20 minute after it starts. If they get it done the same day, or even two days later, they are okay with that. They can still get it done “before most of Ramadan” or whatever. They don’t operate like we do, and it’s their currency! They are in a window of time, and they can do it any time within that window. The rates are still there, and I’m happy.
I gave you the window of time – between today and Sunday they should show the new rates on their cards. They will be working on Saturday. The bankers have already received memos on when to expect this. It’s on television again, and they are ready to go.
Let’s see if there are any questions apart from the moment in time when it’s supposed to happen. They don’t want anyone to know until after it’s happened at this point! They’ve tried to cut off a lot of information, I don’t’ think they want me to say “they are coming into the office on this date/time”. The ganks are ready, Abadi says this is coming soon, and banks have sent out memos for a particular date and time. I’ll leave that alone and not screw it up by letting that information out. I know why they don’t want us to know the exact time and day… because of fraud, stock markets, and all the rest.
302 caller: You said last week that we ought to see something by Ramadan. We are here at Ramadan, and now you are saying between now and Sunday. What makes you think Abadi has control of this?
Tony: That is what my sources are telling me, inside and outside Iraq. They have control within the window they’ve been given.
Caller: I thought Abadi said they would be paid on time…?
Tony: There are articles saying that they would be paid on time, which usually means around the 6th; today is the 17th, and they haven’t been paid yet.
Caller: We’re all frustrated and looking forward to this final countdown.
Tony: Nobody, and I mean NOBODY can be as tired of this as I am. Everyone is frustrated and know there is a reason for this to be here, but nobody is as tired as I am.
404 caller: One of the things we’ve always heard is how confusing the information would be. Is Parliament in session or not? How critical is it Shabibi be back in Iraq? [Can’t follow – too quick] How relevant is this for the RV to happen?
Tony: I think we will see all those things at the same time. When people see all those things happening, that gives a clear path for people to follow, and they don’t want people to have that clear a path. This is just what we have predicted for years: confusion, chaos, the calm before the storm. They want people NOT to understand until it happens. Then they can do it in black and white. They have done that for Iraqis, but not for us.
Caller: They have succeeded; this is the most confused situation I have every seen in my life. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: Pam says this is One-question Wednesday. I understand that you are frustrated and I’m trying to answer your questions as best I can without causing an issue. I also understand your frustrations because they are my frustrations. We are trying to give you as clear a picture as we can. Some of you have been here ten years, and some only six months, so you don’t fully understand. I still have information that you don’t have, and that I am not at liberty to disclose because it will cause an issue. I have to take that into account when I answer your questions. I do have answers that I can’t always share, but that also adds to my frustration.
702 caller: [Appreciation] How can the CBI give the go-ahead if Shabibi is not in control? I don’t see how it can move forward without the Amnesty Law, etc.
Tony: The RV has already occurred; all we are waiting for is the release to the general public. What does the currency have to do with the amnesty law? Nothing. That is just a ball being used that as to be approved before the currency moves. It’s something that they would like to see, sure, and it will mean the release of many who have done nothing wrong because Iraq wants to show the world that they are a just government. None of that is a requirement for the RV. They are not waiting for that because the RV is done. If that is what they were waiting for, then the last ten times they tried to do it in the last month – what were those about if they were waiting for those laws?
Caller: It feels like your window contradicts what you say you can’t say.
Tony: It could happen today. It could be on Saturday, once Iraq’s banks are in alignment with the international banks. It could be on Sunday, if they reload the cards then. It could be any time of that timeframe. Someone is telling me an exact day and time, and I’m not telling you.
Caller: Do you trust that source?
Tony: They tried to do it before and it got stopped. This source is now saying that they are getting ready to try again after two weeks of NOT trying. I wish it went through earlier.
Caller: My husband and I were at work, and I told him to check on the dong rates, just at the end of the afternoon. He called the bank, and the bank manager told us it was .46, or 46 cents. I asked her to repeat, I dropped the phone, grabbed my keys and asked the manager to hold the foreign currency manager. I got to the bank, and she took me into a private room where she tried to do the exchange. I told her how much I had, I went to the window (in public), and the guy there started taking all my information. The teller asked, “Do you know how much money this is??” The manager asked me to write down the amount I thought would be in my account, so she didn’t feel like she was crazy. I got all excited. The teller did the exchange and said he was about to drop it into the account. The wealth manager was right behind me, all ready to help, and at that moment the rate changed back to .0039. I was seconds away from being Bonnie and Clyde! We call the banks every hour on the hour to check when the rates change.
Tony: Next time you have to make a move faster!
Caller: Was it just timing, or do the central banks have a tracking system so they change it back?
Tony: I don’t know. Sometimes the rates have been live and they have been doing test exchanges, when people have gone in at the right time and right place.
Caller: It’s very possible, because it just about happened to me!
Tony: I’m doing something different today, just picking people.
904 caller: I have a question about Maliki. What’s happening with him? He has such an influence with the people, parliament, at the CBI> How many influence does he have? Is he involved with ISIL? I thought his power had been curtailed. Is he still an issue?
Tony: They don’t want me to be a politician, but you want me to address that. I’m not into politics, but from a layman’s eye, I see a former Prime Minister, and now he is a VP to keep him out of way. He is still talking to people and has an influence over his sect. Right now, Iraq is trying to bring the country together as one, playing/working/eating together, and taking Maliki out would make divisions deeper. They cannot just go in and take him out. They gave him a position of respect and people are dealing with him in a back room. A lot of things haven’t happened that should have happened because he is still there. They cannot just take him out and dispose of him. Once we see the RV and a stable unified Iraq, it will be much easier to deal with Maliki.
Caller: Apparently, PM Abadi feels confident enough to go forward with the RV…
Tony: It’s the time it take to go around Maliki and his faction… but hopefully they are out that point now.
Caller: I can’t go to Vegas but will have my own little party when this comes in. I am in Jacksonville Florida. They have casinos nearby and also off-shore.
Tony: So it wasn’t the casino stopping you going to Vegas…?
Caller: Once this comes through, I guess I can go anywhere you set up! [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
617 caller: You said that the banks will be open on Saturday to deal internationally. Don’t they have to have an international rate to do that?
Tony: That is the point. They are staying open to work with international banks, and they cannot do that unless they are international!
Caller: When and where can we find you in Vegas?
Tony: I have a friend in Vegas, and he says he will set it up, come down and meet with some multi-millionaires… If we can’t have our event in Vegas, I can still hang out with people. We won’t be able to have a dinar event, but I wont’ be isolated from the world. I already ordered my TNT Superfantastic shirt and also my Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! shirt. So if you are in Vegas, you will know!
301 caller: [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
707 caller: I’m on the website tnttonyiqd – is that one of your sites?
Tony: I get texts all the time asking if I have seen this site or that message. It really doesn’t bother me. It has nothing to do with the currency, the RV or being at the bank. Any time someone puts Tony’s name in the caption, you guys go look at it! There is another site saying Tony is lying about the dinar and the RV, and when you go to that site, there are a lot of ads selling dinar and dong and zim and rupiah. Why would they do that if I am lying? They get paid every time you click on that site. So they use some quote from Tony, and you go there and that’s how they get paid!
Caller: I have been going to this site for a while because it’s the easiest to see your tweets and to get on the call.
Tony: You should not go to those sites because your clicking there is how they get paid for a call that is free for you!
Caller: It’s kind of confusing. I was just using that site because it was easier. I won’t use it any more… and maybe we won’t have to.
Tony: If you want to hear what Tony says, go to www.tntdinar.com, click on the replay and it’s totally free. If you want to follow the tweets, go to THE_TNT_TEAM and you’ll get them directly.
254 caller: I’m from Texas. My one question is this: at some conference in 2004, I picked up some of Saddam Hussein’s currency (which I gave to the grandkids for playing Monopoly). I have all denominations. When you talk to your contact in Iraq, ask him what currency they are using to buy hot tea at the Green Bean (in Baghdad). I went to the CBI website, looking at the paper notes, and I wonder how they are paying for the cup of tea with those high-value notes. The lowest one seems to be 250 dinar.
Tony: We know they are not using Saddam notes. In the new currency, they have ones, fives, tens, twenties and fifties. All month they have been told the new currency is coming out TODAY. I don’t know if it happened, but that is what they were told, that it’s supposed to come out today.
281 caller: My question involves ‘spendthrift trusts’. How does that work?
Tony: Ray knows about trusts, not me.
Caller: Ray was supposed to call me, but hasn’t yet.
Tony: Do you want his number? <laughter> I will give him your number again.
Caller: I liked your message about the bank earlier. I was handling some business at the back, and I told the manager helping us that we were involved in currency. The manager said they had been given information but they were waiting for the green light. I thought that was pretty cool. That was last Friday. [Appreciation]
Tony: A lot of bank people told us that they were told to be quiet and not say anything about this. We talk to DC ten times a day, and he is over the top today. He still has to do what he is doing, but he is excited!
410 caller: This call is better than food! I am looking forward to this amazing piece. One of the first conversations I had with you was about understanding how complicated this is, even when everyone is on the same side. There are millions of decisions to be made. With Iraq, you have a whole population who doesn’t understand and in the US you have people who have their own issues. I’m thankful you were here to help us, sifting the information so we can understand it. [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: If you see how young people look when they go into the Oval Office, and they come out eight years later all tired and worn down, with grey hair… that’s how I feel going through this whole process. I don’t have the weight of the world, like the President, but my hair is gone beyond grey. But it was definitely worth it. I learned a lot, achieved a lot, got to help a lot of people. I am not choosing one side over the other, but I saw something very funny yesterday: Donald Trump’s announcement. Don’t get me wrong, I love the Art of the Deal, and real estate, and that book made me a lot of money. But that announcement yesterday was just comical.
757 caller: You are doing a great job! Can you reveal some of your intel?
Tony: You mean some I haven’t already given you?
Caller: Well, can you send me one of your Cuban cigars?
Tony: They told me not to say that on the call again, but we’ll smoke some when we get together.
559 caller: I almost lost my train of thought when you were talking about Donald Trump. He is quite a character.
Tony: I don’t think he really wants to run for President – he just wants fame or something. There is no way he thought he could be President of the United States, not with what was coming out of his mouth.
Caller: For those who are stressed – the people of Iraq come first. It’s their country. People here are getting this as a blessing. If you look at it like it’s a job, and go to work every day, they get their paycheck at the end. This has been handed to people. I’ve been doing this for eleven years. If they see this as a job, working towards a goal, that will be easier for them. Consider the effort as part of this. We miss DC and his laughter. Pam and Ray and all the Mods are doing a great job. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
My question is about Ramadan. They said they wanted this done by the 17-18; now we are here, so how will they do this during the 30 days? Or go through Ramadan first?
Tony: Since it’s already passed and it didn’t happen, my understanding is they wanted it several days prior to Ramadan, so that they could go to the bank beforehand and then enjoy the holiday spending their money. That part didn’t happen because some people got upset in a meeting. That’s why it didn’t happen 4-5 days ago like it was supposed to. They still want it by Ramadan – does that mean today, tomorrow, Saturday, Sunday, when they can do international exchanges? So they have to accept flexibility and do this during Ramadan and spend the rest of it going to parties, etc. There is nothing to say it can’t happen during Ramadan or that we have to wait until Ramadan is over. That is not currently the plan. It could change, but as of this morning, that is not the plan.
Caller: It sounds great. I was told about ten years ago that once Iraq got its banks in line with this, it would happen for us. That is just around the corner now! I’m happy that they are getting what they deserve and we are next.
Tony: Pam says this is One-question Wednesday. The tweets are also on the TNTdinar site; click on Forum and you will see where the Mods have posted them.
Will we have a celebration in Vegas? Yes, that is chance to hang out and meet the people you have been talking to on the internet. I have never met Pam face to face, nor Winston either. I haven’t met a lot of you guys; I barely know Ray face to face! It’s time for us to drink, smoke cigars, give each other hugs, put a face to a name. I would like the banks to give the same classes they give to lottery winners as well. There will people there who want to talk to you about various investment programs they have access to, and that is okay – they would have their own space for that. Ray wants to do a class for 500 people every day for the whole four days… although there will be 12,000 people there. Every night we could have a social event with live bands and parties. There will definitely be cigars – I will be smoking good cigars and drink good Scotch. This may be the only time we get to meet each other. In Vegas we will have four days, and in the other locations we will just have one-day events. It’s only about meeting people, not about controlling or influencing anyone. I’m sure there will be that kind of event in Iraq, in DC and elsewhere, and we want to do one for ourselves.
There are a couple of people who want to do annuities, and I’ll ask people to come to the events to explain those as well.
Pam: Guys, we are so close – we know we are close. Don’t hold us or them to the timing. Ramadan hasn’t started yet! Some people don’t start on time, either – the different groups celebrate at different times. They keep telling us that Westerners worry too much about time, and we need to relax. So relax – we know we’re there.
Ray: Ditto. Continue to enjoy When-am-I-gonna-see-it Wednesday. Someone knows when you’ll see it and they will be contacting you!
Tony: Everyone is geared up, although very few know the exact moment. Based on the public information, they are looking to do this between now and Sunday. I took a call this morning at 5am, but up to the moment it happens, it can change. As of last Friday, the plan was to do this three days before Ramadan so they could get to the bank before the holiday. Don’t hold anyone to the clock, just know that everyone is ready for this to happen and get this over with. Iraqis have NOT been paid this month and it’s already the 17th. That should tell you something. They are being told the banks will be open in Saturday and their cards will be loaded at the new rate on Sunday. That is what they are being told today, that their currency will be worth more than before Saddam Hussein. Hopefully the nightmare is over and the party begins. Sit back and have a super-fantastic day. I would be happy to do another call this afternoon or tomorrow. I DON’T want to do this call on Friday morning! Okay, enjoy your day!
TNT Call notes 15-June-2015
Dr Kyre Adept
Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today is Monday, June 15, 2015. I’m checking my emails in case you are sending me questions and expecting me to answer them!
Pam says today is significant – oh, it’s the date we should be seeing this, right? Everybody goes by their information.
Let me tell you what is happening – everything that was happening on Friday is still happening. Nothing has changed, everyone is still in the same situation, not much discussion, nothing needs to be passed. Iraq is still being told they will have new currency and rates on the 17th, and the 18th is the first day of Ramadan. I’m still waiting for a television update today. In the mosques they were told the instructions once again, and some have been told this is a done deal. They are definitely geared up for it. For those who think 2+2=4, they would not be giving instructions for 17. June if they intend to release this next January! That does not compute!
This is what we are seeing going by the actions, announcements, and actions in the US banks. A lot of people are being shut out, with information cut off at all sorts of levels. Nobody wants us to know the exact date/time until this is done. That makes sense, giving computer hacking, the stock market, and currency smuggling. They tried it the other way, with people in their offices, but too much info got out. Now they are doing it top secret, and we’ll know when it’s over with and we can get the party started.
There is not a lot out there for most people. We know they have a plan, they are getting ready. The most I can do now is to go with the 17th, the date that Abadi announced, and that their television is saying the new currency is coming out. We have two days to get this started and see it happening. Ramadan will not affect the RV in any way.
Nobody 601? That’s 381 minutes wasted. Let’s take some questions from the forum.
Q: Our senior supporters are saying that everything is on track; everyone is waiting for activation.
Q: What percentage of Iraqi merchants are using the new rates? I don’t have a percentage. In different parts of Iraq they are using different rates.
Q: I receive emails from groups who are talking about a GCR in October. Interesting they are talking about this on the internet… Do you think they can separate RV and GCR? No. The GCR will go immediately because the RV will affect the reserves held in different countries, making their own currency more valuable.
Q: If the FBI stole Sterling’s database, why would they ask us to fill out forms? Good question – why would they? I’m not going to answer that.
617 caller: Have they attempted anything since the last call?
Tony: No, they have not… and that is a clue.
301 caller: I’m super-fantastic as well. You said some time ago that if it was pushed out so many days, you didn’t think it would go through. Do you think it will happen this time?
Tony: The fact that they have NOT attempted it and it has NOT been blocked, with the current level for information, the next attempt could actually go through.
Caller: If the site is static, how can we find out the rates?
Tony: There are bunch of apps you can download on your phone, or go to Forex.com and use their currency converter. Google or Yahoo can be set up to send you alerts.
Caller: What currency will you hold back to find out how it will be affected on Forex?
Tony: If I were to hold back hold currency to watch it rise on Forex, it would be dinar because I think it will go higher than others. However, you have to know what you are doing. There used to be a safety net for using Forex, but that isn’t there any more. Forex changes fast. If you are watching, and then make your appointment, you might not catch the peak – it may be lower by then. People who are on Forex can put in a sell order themselves, where we have to make an appointment. I don’t KNOW that it will go up and down very quickly, but it’s possible, and you no longer have that safety. If I were you guys, I would go get my money and then make money with my money. That is what I would do!
Caller: [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
718 caller: With all these delays over the last couple of weeks, you talk about the best investments to get into, but everything has been pushed back so far that I wonder if it’s too late to invest in these good investments.
Tony: I think you will still have the opportunity to get involved in them, at a slower late. “A penny doubled every day is a million dollars in 30 days”. Your goal is still whatever it was, but maybe you only have ten million dollars to start with instead of a hundred million. I still have to keep my focus on the plan and how to work that plan.
Caller: What if it’s too late to get into those new technologies like 3-D printing? If I don’t have as much, how do I get involved in those stocks for long-term investments?
Tony: You can still get involved; it will just take you longer to get to your goal. Nobody says you have to put in a hundred million… you can put in 10,000 into an IPO and end up making a million dollars. You just have to do more research. That’s what I had to do, get up at 2am to read the news and do it all on my own because I didn’t have anyone to do it for me. The first time I used someone else, I lost 85K – I could have done that by myself! Yes, they keep moving the cheese, but they will keep doing that. Over time, you will become the cat, it will just take a little longer with less money.
Caller: Thank you. I will keep to my plan and hope everything works out. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
404 caller: Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! About contract rates – are they still available? What range are we looking at for dinar and dong?
Tony: I think they are still available; I don’t think anything has changed there. I believe the contract rate for dong will probably be $2.27; I haven’t heard any change on dinar either. We haven’t heard much in the last couple of days, it’s only going to the highest level. We are getting just enough information to reassure you that the rates are still here. We are just waiting on execution. We assume we will still be able to do the 15-minute call. They used to ask us, but I think they have finalized it in their own minds. If something different happens, it will be at the last minute. There will probably be a recording; for some unknown reason, they don’t trust me to do a live call. I will do whatever they ask, so we will probably do a recorded call with more information on the sites.
Caller: The UN site was down for 24 hours, and now is up dated 1. June. Is that related to the RV – that they just have to flip a switch and it will be active?
Tony: I don’t’ have contacts with the UN, and have not been watching that site, but if today is their day, I imagine their computer techs are more savvy than that. They would not be down for 2-3 days unless they choose to be. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are already changed, and we are just being redirected.
Caller: Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! I’m sure you will let us know when that is going to be!
860 caller: I’m super-fantastic just like you are today! Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! That’s why I called. If there any possibility you can go to Georgia as well, that would be great.
Tony: Even if we can’t do Vegas, Vegas, Vegas, I will still be in Vegas.
Caller: Is this really going to go before Ramadan? How long does Ramadan last?
Tony: It’s 30 days, according to DC.
Caller: What about the zim and the possibility of it expiring by 30. June?
Tony: There was an article last week that said they would have new rates TODAY, 15. June – and the day is not over with.
Caller: [Appreciation] We stand for truth, justice and the dinarian way! Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! When will that happen? <crowing>
Tony: Is that a rooster?!
Caller: Yes, I’m outside – they crow all day long, so I don’t hear it any more.
Tony: Ray is going somewhere, and I’m going to Vegas regardless for the weekend or a week… just to have fun!
508 caller: I’m super-fantastic! [Appreciation] DC has already given more than we deserve, and so have you!
Tony: DC is doing what he has to do and what he can do. It was stressing him out that people were putting pressure on him to be on the calls. He is doing what he has to do. We still talk to him in the morning before he goes in… He’s working 14 hours per day, and he has babies that he wants to spend time with as well.
Caller: There have been various things said about dinarians, and statistics about people who got sudden wealth and went bankrupt within a couple of years. There are some who exchanged two years ago – where are they now?
Tony: What’s different is that those people already had money. Some of them got SKRs and still haven’t got the actual cash. Some are getting paid monthly, so they haven’t got the bulk of their money. It all depends on what level. There was someone from a government agency who said they think 90% will be broke within 2-5 years.
Callers: There are some bank tellers who walked off the job; how are they doing now?
Tony: They signed NDAs, so we don’t know. There aren’t paparazzi standing around gloating. We are not going to find out that they blew five million dollars in six months. Anybody I know will not be broke for a long time. I don’t know anyone who has exchanged who is going to go broke. We are not going to get any bankruptcy data until we all go and the big numbers come out. Also, some of those early exchangers didn’t get the whole amount. Also, the UST gets the oil credits, not the banks.
Caller: So I can’t buy any oil credits directly. I was at a resort in the US where I could pay with various currencies. People might like to hold onto some of their currency for that.
423 caller: I’m super-fantastic, sitting in Dallas in a steam bath – it rained for five minutes! In the Sterling situation, I have reserves that are paid for 100%. Any holdup there?
Tony: I don’t know. Did you call Sterling?
Caller: The website said they are ready to be shipped, but that’s been several days.
Tony: I have not talked to Sterling; in fact, my attorney advised me not to talk to them. I can’t share an opinion about that when I have my own personal opinions. Go to the back room, send a message, document everything you are doing (have done), including any purchases. When this all shakes out, your attorney will tell you what to do next. I would definitely call and make sure they know that I want what’s mine.
Caller: They definitely cashed the check two days before. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
281 caller: That guy who was upset with DC for not being on the call… DC has done way more than expected, and we are thankful. I think DC is upset that you tease him so much about Texas! We’re going to have a lot of millionaires in Texas after that. If the zim goes today, will we get another call?
Tony: If the zim goes it will because the dinar has gone, and I hope we will have a call. The zim is no different than dinar, in that respect. The article did say today; we’ll have to wait and see.
Caller: Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! Or anywhere in Texas!
757 caller: Tony for President! Let’s say this does go down by the 17th, are the rates on the screens what you think will apply then?
Tony: They could change. The one I’m worried about is the dong, because it’s gone up to $2.27 instead of 47 cents. The other rates are pretty much what we’ve expected all along. That 2.27 is more likely to be a contract rate.
646 caller: Well, are we almost at the end of this journey?
Tony: That is what we are hearing!
Caller: Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! And blessings to the community!
407 caller: You answered most of my questions. Several months ago you said we could put our money in several banks, and then you said we might get a better deal if we put all of our money in one bank…
Tony: I’m not a financial adviser; this is just my opinion. If I had a bunch of the different currencies, I would go to each bank and say, “Give me your best shot”, with their conditions and so on based on what I have. I would then take the best offer. Let’s say I put 25% of my currency in one bank, set aside money for taxes… then I might move some of my remaining funds into other banks and see what they can do for me rather than keeping all my eggs in one basket.
Caller: Would the second bank be able to track what I already exchanged through my SS number?
Tony: Banks do NOT share that kind of information.
Caller: Will Ray still have classes after the RV? How do I get in touch with him? Will you give him my number again, please? [Appreciation]
Tony: If Ray doesn’t call you back, on the next call I’ll give you HIS number!
605 caller: We had a rooster once who would not crow until we woke him up! My question is about Sterling; I got three emails on Sunday morning asking me to send in the order number and amounts I had in reserves. I didn’t respond. It said to respond to support@sterlingcurrency.com. What’s the consensus on that?
Tony: Your bank doesn’t send you an email asking for your account number – why would they ask for it? Sterling has your order number and your email address, so why would they ask for that confirmation? Somebody tracked down the emails being received, some were from overseas, and a bunch of them are just trying to get your information. If it were me in that situation, I’d be calling people with a live person on the other end. I would not get involved in those emails. If you have tried to make your payment and it wasn’t accepted, that is a whole different situation and it will end up in court eventually.
Caller: What about that article saying people will receive 40 cents for 100 trlllion zim?
Tony: I expect that is just to pull them out in-country because that is great rate for them. The rate I have heard for us internationally, with the GCR, is substantially better, as I have said on calls for a long time.
585 caller: [chitchat about hunting]
Tony: I know a lot of people hunt. Hunting to eat is one thing. Hunting for a game is something else. I’ve never been hunting, and it bothers me to think of shooting an animal that doesn’t even know you are hunting it. If you want to be a real hunter, go after something that is hunting you in return.
Caller: I think we should go on a big game hunt for ‘mountain goat’.
Tony: Oh! We know who and where Mtn Goat is, we know the server, etc. That doesn’t bother me – everyone has their own opinion. My message has stayed consistent: “this is what I’m hearing today” and that is what I always bring you guys. This is what they are putting out for various reasons, and we are putting together the pieces. We try to figure out why they told them X, Y or Z. A lady called me last week, crying, saying people I know asked her to make up a story and tell it to me. We just try to be current. Other people try to tell you other things, tell you dates, and then (like Mtn Goat) tell you a few days later that it’s going to be something completely different. They have attempted to release many times, and it has been blocked. All I can do is tell you what I’m hearing and seeing on a given day.
Caller: How can this happen on a three-day weekend when they don’t want us coming into the banks on a Monday? Most banks are closed on Saturday and Sunday.
Tony: Believe me, when this happens, they will open at the weekends and extended hours, too. They decided to allow the banks to set their own places and times, and they control the offsite exchange places, too.
Next caller: So Abadi is telling people they will change the rates by the 17th, right? What if they don’t do it by then?
Tony: That is what has been announced, and if it doesn’t happen, Abadi has given an exact date, so he will be embarrassed and losing credibility. DC is saying everyone is still in position, ready, and in a window that I will not repeat. Let’s go with the 17th. It’s like a chess board, with people moving into position. Pay attention their actions, not their words.
Caller: Heart of hearts, what do you think?
Tony: I think it will be this weekend, although they could be psyching us out, and it could be on the 19th, or the 16th. I know Abadi told him people they would get paid on time at the new rates, and that didn’t happen yet. This is the banking system, and nobody is getting paid this month yet. There is still a lot of opportunity for us to see this right now.
Caller: Sterling and the other dealers were licensed by the UST; what responsibility does the Treasury hold towards those of us with reserves? We have a contract here.
Tony: I don’t know what responsibility the UST has. The Treasury is not the ones who shut them down. The company is still operating, and the FBI is investigating. I don’t know where it will all end up, and we won’t know until charges are brought (or not). All that glitters is not gold; just because you think you know something, that doesn’t mean you know something. This is a big boys’ game, and I’m am NOT going to put my neck on the chopping block just so people can have the information and to satisfy your curiosity about something you cannot affect. It’s just not everything that you think. Just deal with what you have. You guys are trying to fight something you are not capable of fighting at the moment. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst, and you are about to see the worst. All you can do is prepare. That’s all I can say.
281 caller: Vegas event?
Tony: If we are able to set up the Vegas event, you can go to the tntsuperfantastic site and sign up for that and any other event. [That’swww.tntsuperfantastic.com, .net, .info.]
Caller: In your mind, if the dong doesn’t come out at $2.27, do you anticipate the 47 cents rate, and will that go up?
Tony: The 47 cents is what I heard as the international rate, and $2.27 is the contract rate. That’s what I expect.
Caller: I hear that you are not concerned about currency we have bought from Sterling?
Tony: I am not concerned about the validity of the currency I have in hand, not at all.
Skype caller: What are you up to?
Tony: I’m talking to some people on live radio about dinar and other currencies. What are you up to?
Caller: I’m putting this into the hand of the One who can handle this. He knows all and controls all. I believe God is going to bring this off! I do have one question. If you go with the international rate of the dong, will you have to sign an NDA or not?
Tony: My understanding is that only contract rates will require an NDA.
Caller: I understand you all gave up quality time with your family to help millions of people; God saw that, and I pray a special covering from God to protect and provide for you the rest of your life. I hope you know who I mean… I know Ray and Pam do.
Tony: I appreciate all the prayers I can get. Ray goes to church all the time; for some reason do you think Pam, and DC and I don’t believe in that God?
Caller: If you put everything towards the Glory of God, then we’ll talk further.
Tony: The other five questions all had to do with Sterling, what to do about that.
Pam: Thanks for not throwing me under the bus about God. Guys, you need to be flexible. You know more than you think you know; take your time and do the right thing.
Ray: Ditto.
Tony: Alright, this is it. In all honesty, I give you all the information I can. We do get information that makes us feel good and gives us a basis for who is telling us the truth. We don’t put all that information. However, everyone is feeling good. They have a plan, and many were briefed on that plan and a new window of time. In the last ten days, they have not made one attempt, so I feel good about them trying it within this window. Get ready, be ready and stay ready so you don’t get anxious when it happens. Sit down right now and write down the first ten things you need to do, in order; while yourself through those steps while you are still calm and sane. Work out your steps right now; work out that you want to do so that your money works for you, and you might have to wait for that before buying things. You will have so much money you won’t know how to use it or protect it. So take the time to plan NOW, so that you won’t have ‘paralysis by analysis’. Make your plan now with your spouse or those who know you have this. Talk to the bank manager or wealth manager now, saying “This is my plan”; otherwise they will think you are an idiot who they don’t want to waste their time on. Make a plan, and let’s make this the best opportunity of your life. If something happens, we will have a call. TNT is ready; let’s throw this thing up on the board and make it happen! Talk you later…
TNT Call notes 12-June-2015
Dr Kyre Adept
Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today is Friday, June 12, 2015. This is one of those good-bad things. This is sensitive, exciting, emotional information and that’s what this day is going to be. I was thinking about this and want to share it with those who care. When I was in MLM, with days on the stage, people would walk up to me and say, “I wish I was you” and my response was “If you understood what it took to be me, you’d take a gun to your head!” Today, emotional and complicated and misunderstood as it is, I say the same thing. People are saying they’re sorry that I’m going through exposure to idiots and all the rest, and people still wish they were me… either you don’t know what you are talking about, you’re lying to yourself, or you’re an idiot. You have to be crazy to want to be in this suit. And guess what, there are people making videos about Tony… because nobody would look at that site unless it was about Tony. Even today, this clown still wants to be known because of Tony, and that is just ridiculous. Don’t look at others, appreciate what you are yourself.
I’m looking at the call board right now, and if anyone has been on the call in the last two weeks, please put your hands down. I like the old guys and I want to talk to some new people. We’re going through something sensitive, and I want to know what some of the new people feel about that, and what questions they have. So if you’ve been on in the last two weeks, give someone else a shot today. Press *2 to lower your hand, so I don’t have to drop as many people off.
Here’s the information: nothing has changed, everything is absolutely the same as the last three calls. Everything is completed and ready to go, and it will go when they reach the perfect time in their minds. Everything is signed off, completed, ready to go when they choose the perfect moment. My bank people are seeing the rates $3,91, $2.27 for dong and 13 cents for zim. Iraq is completed and ready for the magical hour. There is something they have to complete by 17. June, with new currency and rates. All the banks in Iraq are now authorized to exchange foreign currency. That is the third time they have done that, and each time it’s just before they make another attempt. They have told their people by the 17th, before Ramadan, and that’s when I look for it to happen (or before).
405 caller: You say Iraq has control when it goes? If it has to be in a window, then they don’t have control…
Tony: As long as it’s in that window, they have control. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
610 caller: [Appreciation]
936 caller: I’m doing just fine, sir. We were asked questions here about Iraq – they have tried to press the button so many times and it was stopped in the US. Do you know what they were going to do a few years to prevent us from getting this? It seems like they are going through the same rigamarole here. What were they doing a few years ago?
Tony: I can’t remember – I’d have to look at our notes – but there was a definite plan.
Caller: Do you think they are doing the same thing now?
Tony: I don’t think they are doing the same thing as far as cutting us out; back then we weren’t going to get anything. The RV is happening, and nobody out there is saying the Iraq currency is NOT going to revalue. It’s all a play on words and preconceptions and getting people to ASSUME it won’t revalue. Guys, the bottom line is that it has to revalue, and be international – the loans, investments in the country are all based on Iraq having a new rate. Their PM has gone on television several times saying that their dinar will revalue. The banks have given rates and dates, it’s shown on their television and newspapers and they are explaining the process. Unless they are lying to their own people and the world, the RV will occur. We just don’t know the date and time.
Caller: Do you anticipate this might get stopped again here in the US?
Tony: My understanding for the last 18 days and again this morning is that they are all in agreement.
Caller: Was that the contract rate you gave earlier?
Tony: It was the international rate for the dinar, and $2.22 was on the screens for the dong. For me, 47 cents for the dong (international) makes more sense, but we’ll see.
Caller: We’re proud of them over there. They have done more in Iraq in the last year than we have in 200 years!
916 caller: Someone asked a question about trusts, and that you may have to share the cap with the trust if you control the trust. If others are on the board of our trust that we have set up to help this neighborhood, will that be okay?
Tony: I’m not an attorney or financial adviser, and you should ask such a person, but if you have a board of trustees and you are just sitting on the board, and decisions are made by a majority of the board, then it should be alright. If you have a family trust and you are the ones in charge, then you will probably be seen as having control. Do get some legal advice.
Caller: We have a tax attorney but they want to see the money before investing much time. I’m not a Vegas girl, but Sacramento, Sacramento, Sacramento!
479 caller: We’ve been hearing something is supposed to expire on the 17th… was that EO 13303? Or something else?
Tony: All we’ve been talking about lately is the possibility of the zim expiring.
EO 13303 was renewed in May, so that’s not involved. You can ask Pam, because I may not be right, but I’m never wrong. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
408 caller: How are you, Tony? I’m fine, just working.
Tony: I’m super-fantastic because I know what’s going on!
Caller: I have a question about gift letters, that you need to have them notarized? I plan on giving people currency post-RV. I have the letters already, and I could date them before the RV.
Tony: I would do it before – if you know who you are giving to, just do it! Make out the gift letter, add the currency in the envelope, get it notarized and get it done. Otherwise, if it comes to court, and you admit you filled it out ten days after the RV, that’s not the same.
Caller: There are saying that Sterling was being pumped on other sites, but no one is naming names. Do you know any of the people involved in pumping for Sterling? That is what they are going after, that people were lying about the RV being imminent just to increase sales. If we knew their names, we could then avoid them.
Tony: What you want me to do is to name all the people that I think might have been pumping up sales of the dinar and Sterling, so you can dismiss what they said? No, I can’t. I don’t know anyone who was doing anything for anybody, intentionally or un-intentionally. I know people want more information here. This is what I do know, and what I’ve been talking to people about for five years. We told you a long time ago that in the end there is a list of people who will be arrested. This is nothing new, and I am not shocked about any of this, because they will get the people taking people’s dinars, or taking money for the opportunity to exchange dinar. There are groups that had you send your dinar, and now they cannot give it back. There are gurus who made you pay to be in the calls, or to get you to the front of the line. We knew this would happen near the end or at the end, so none of this is a surprise. Actually, Sterling is a big surprise to me! This is part of the process, and we’ve been talking about it for 4-5 years. We knew it would be crazy and many of you will be disappointed with some of the people and groups you got involved with. When it comes time to do the exchange, you will go to the bank yourself, get your money right away and get on with your life. Those in groups may not see their money for months, or even for years. That is why we advised you not to get involved in any of that. Nothing in the world is like having your own money in your hand, going to the bank, and making your own decisions. Now people are saying, “I wish I had paid attention two years ago, or even two weeks ago.” People are using all this as a way to get more of your money, not knowing that they are going to get caught. If you don’t believe me, just look at the information that’s out there. The FBI is actively putting people on notice that they are looking for people whose money has been taken so that they can be at the front of the line. All of that is coming to roost now, all of it. There are some things you guys don’t know about that we can’t talk about on the call.
Right now, I would concentrate on what you have, what is under your control, and how can you make that multiply? Pay yourself first, have your money make money, set aside money for taxes and make the rest work for you. Okay, you might only have ten million instead of a hundred million – so how can you turn that into a hundred million? Plan A is doing what you are doing now and see how that works out. Plan B is to do whatever else you need to do to achieve your goals. Do you want to be first mouse, second mouse? What bank do you want to go to? These are decisions that have to be made right now.
If Plan A depended on reserves, you’d better come up with a Plan B now, and a Plan C for what you will do afterwards. That is just my personal opinion.
513 caller: What was the dong rate you mentioned earlier?
Tony: It was 2.27 on the screens.
Caller: I was going to give my time over to 404, because she asks great questions. The bank I want to use is not tier 1, and it is closed on the weekends; would that be a concern if it is released this weekend?
Tony: It is definitely a possibility. They want it to start before Ramadan on the 18th, and that is five days from now. I don’t know exactly when it will be released, and also we don’t have the package yet. We don’t know if we will have the 15-minute call or a longer call. We just want to help and make it as smooth as possible for your guys. If we can help and make it a smooth transition, we are ready to do that. If not, you will have to go back to these calls and make your own plans and decisions.
Caller: Austin, Austin, Austin!
Tony: There is something about you TX people saying “Austin, Austin, Austin” sounds like “awful, awful, awful”, so I don’t think so.
301 caller: I’m blessed! I’m above ground and that’s a good thing! Based on what you said about Sterling, does it seem that any layaway money at Sterling are now lost, and there will be no settlements there?
Tony: I don’t know what that is really all about. I can say (just as me, personally) that if I were you, I would have a Plan B. I don’t know if we will get settlements or not. A reasonable person might say that will be tied up in court for a long time; if I do get it in the end, that will be a blessings. A reasonable person would develop a Plan B.
Caller: A wise rat has more than one hole, so if you were depending on Sterling alone, then you need to have alternatives. I read the complaint, and it seemed to me that Sterling was not at fault so much as their affiliates doing things amiss.
Tony: Every time I talked to Sterling on the phone, they seemed honest and professional. I don’t know what anyone knows or did or said. I can’t talk about any of that. When I look at everything that came out, nowhere did it say that the RV was not going to take place, that the currency wouldn’t revalue. The ‘scams’ that took place during this process were NOT about dinar itself but with respect to other activities that have now come to light. Will the dinar revalue one day? Yes. How can I make sure I have enough currency to make sure my dreams come true when that happens? That’s what I’m looking for because there is nothing I can do about the rest of it.
Caller: A plan is better than no plan. Most people don’t plan to fail, they fail to plan. If you bought currency and the RV happens eventually, you are bound to gain in the end. They haven’t talk about dinar or the RV, they talked more about who Sterling affiliated itself with than about Sterling’s own actions. It will get cleaned up, but it won’t before the RV, that’s for sure.
Tony: [chitchat about sports]
601 caller: [Appreciation]
561 caller: Does the US Treasury or government get to exchange all their dinar for oil credits?
Tony: That is the way this was set up, yes.
Caller: So if I exchange for the international rate, will the UST receive oil credits for every dinar they receive from the bank? [Tony: Yes.} [Appreciation]
209 caller: Thank you to all the people who cut off, as I would never have made it on the call today! You have a plan to exchange; how long do you think this will take? If we check with each bank in turn, by the time we exchange the contract rates may be gone.
Tony: I’m going to use four different banks because each one will offer me something different, and I believe in diversifying and not putting all my eggs in one basket. I will put a lot of money NOT in banks, in other types of opportunity. If you are trying to get a contract rate, they will be available first thing. If you have enough currency to dictate that negotiation, then that’s what I would do. They will ask how much you have, how much you are willing to leave in their bank and for how long. If you fit their criteria, you should take their offer. If you don’t fit those criteria, then I would wait. At some point, this will hit Forex, and it will run up and then come down. That is not for the faint of heart. If you don’t want to risk that, you can exchange and put your money somewhere it will make money for you.
Caller: If they are looking at rates on the screen, is that the new code or the old code?
Tony: I didn’t ask that question this morning. We have discussed that in the past; sometimes the codes didn’t go through and I think those were the new codes.
Caller: I think the real reason DC isn’t on the call is that he hasn’t got his macadamia nuts and chocolate. I think you should send some of those on to him!
772 caller: We’re still here! The alternate plans you are talking about (in case Plan A doesn’t work)… has anyone talked about actual exchanges with dealers rather than banks? Not at the airports, because they probably won’t have enough cash, but dealers who have a big office in a city. Will they be able to handle this?
Tony: That is always an option, but I haven’t heard anything myself.
Caller: The dealers are able to do a few things the banks cannot do, so call your local dealer to see if you can buy other currencies with your existing currency.
Tony: I hear what you are saying and I want people to think about this. Let’s say I have dinar and I want $4 for my dinar – are you saying the dealer may not meet the same rate the bank is offering? The international rate is $3.91, and if the bank is going to give me that rate, I want the dealer to give me that same rate or why would I go there? Maybe I can use the dealer to exchange dinar into some other currency, but how does that benefit me? If I take the contract rate up to the cap, and you suggest that I exchange the rest with the dealer, if he can’t give me more than $3.91, I might as well stay at the bank. So, yes, that is an option, but you need to think it through.
409 caller: [Appreciation] What do you think of the troops brought to Iraq this past week?
Tony: You are trying to get me in trouble!
Caller: That was one of the concerns, troops being sent to Iraq. They wanted more protection in Baghdad before the RV, right?
Tony: They wanted more and better equipment delivered faster; they also wanted combat troops to go in with the Iraq Defense Force. The US and the coalition agreed to send more, newer, better equipment to all parts of the country. It wasn’t ideal from Iraq’s point of view, but it was something everyone could live with. Our country has put 14 years into changing their country, trying to make it a democracy, and where multiple countries benefit from helping them grow. We have invested trillions of dollars, and Iraq is going to grow into a decent democracy, even if they are never perfect (just as we are not perfect). Investors will help build Iraq into the next Dubai, plus the foundation of the Global Currency Reset, using the dinar as a reserve currency to bolster each of those 190 countries… so we are not going to let Iraq fail. Imagine you have a new kid who is two years old, or five years old, and you tell that kid to go out in the streets and learn to defend yourself and make your own decisions. The kid says, “What?! I’ve never been outside before!” By the time he gets to the sidewalk, he’s been beaten up six times. So you need to walk the kid down to the sidewalk and support him for a few more years until he’s able to look after himself. I believe that is what will happen at some point. They are going to have to try things on their own, with resistance for years to come if someone doesn’t help. It doesn’t have to be the US; other countries can hold Iraq’s hand.
Caller: Is this one of the reasons this got held up a few weeks ago? [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: A lot of people think it is. That’s all I’m going to say.
205 caller: Does Greece have anything to do with the RV, to keep other economies from having a full meltdown?
Tony: I really want everyone to understand that the RV is not being held up. Iraq has already paid people different rates in different parts of the country. Iraq is announcing rates and the date the people will see the new rates. All we’re really waiting for is the announcement. Countries and banks have been signed off, rates are on the bank screens, and we are just waiting for the announcement. So we are not waiting for Greece for the whole world to change. We hope to see it before the 17th. I think they are trying to get this accomplished, and I don’t think they want Abadi to look that bad as a new prime minister. They’ve been saying “soon, in a few days” but now they are giving exact dates and instructions in the mosques, so I don’t see a PM doing that to himself.
713 caller: What’s going on with the people in the streets of Iraq?
Tony: They have put money on their cards so that won’t protest. Money was supposed to be put back on our friend’s card on Tuesday; they had a meeting, apologized, and gave him a new date for that to happen. They won’t reload the cards until they can do it at the new rate.
Caller: Did you hear anything from the mosques this morning? What about the TV?
Tony: I did hear something but I’m not going to say until it’s been confirmed. On television they continue to talk about the process, etc. Abadi has already told his people and the whole world that there will be a new rate and a new currency by the 17th. When everyone is told that they are being given a whole lot, if it doesn’t happen that will disappoint a lot of people.
Caller: This would be the greatest thing for the planet, for Iraq and every human being that can benefit, so let’s move forward and make this a global event. Please release this and let us make a new planet – now, today! Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! Let’s go party!
803 caller: You mentioned an extra rate on Wednesday, for the Afghani. I had never heard that before. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: We’ve been giving out the Afghani rate before.
626 caller: At the G7, President Obama said that Americans will never cash in from this.
Tony: Huh? I never heard him say that. We have banking laws, and all of them would have to be changed to exclude the dinar as a currency – why would we do that when we just spent the last eleven years supporting Iraq and making it a global currency. Why would they not let us exchange the currency and boost the economy? That doesn’t make sense to me. Years ago, someone else could have made that decision. Since then, it’s all been about how much we should have.
806 caller: I’m ready for this roller coaster ride to be over. President Obama did sign EO 13303 last month.
Tony: 404, if you could dial in right now, I will let you ask the last questions.
Caller: You said everything is the same, so when you get your package and tweet out, the thing I would like to see is that you will put it onwww.tntdinar.com, so that anyone who is not on the forum or who doesn’t get the tweets will still get the information.
Tony: The site will say “we are now static” for however long we need to get the info and go through the package. Go to the front page of www.tntdinar.com. We have the page made up and it will say “We are now static”. When we come back with the information, we will have a live call, and we will put that information on the front page. When we have done the call, we will post the replay on that public page as well, so everyone (members or nonmembers) can listen and follow the instructions. Pam is sending me text after text:
Pam: www.tntdinar.com does NOT require a log-in. You can click on Forum, and gain access to the Tony Blast section, with the ten most important things you can read without being a member. We will also put the information the three tntsuperfantastic.com, .net and .info, and you don’t have to log in there either.
Caller: Two nights ago I got a confirmation on the automatic layaway with a new date. What is your take on that? Should we try to make those payments?
Tony: Sterling does seem to be continuing their process. I would call them and ask if they are in business or not. They didn’t arrest anyone, but the site says that they are not accepting new business or payments. I don’t know any more than that; I would have a Plan B.
Caller: I do have a Plan B. You just play your hand the best you can. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! [Appreciation] The haters make fun of me, but it doesn’t bother me. They need to get a life. What goes around comes around, and they’ll pay for it someday.
Tony: We wanted to get some new people today, hear what they’re thinking.
Pam? Ray?
Pam: I agree with Tony – have a Plan B, be flexible and ready to move, ready to do what’s best for you.
Ray: Continue to enjoy Fantabulous Friday – is it “Finally going to see it Friday”? Yes we are going to see it, eventually; time will tell.
Tony: You have options. You can sit around and mope about what could have been, or right now you can form a plan to make the remaining time and resources into the best plan possible. Anything that can be done about other conditions is NOT going to be done between now and this RV. Afterwards, everyone who lost money, who was promised to be at the front of the line, promised a certain rate, or that they would go two years before anyone else, etc., etc., or you can’t find the people you sent dinar to, and all the rest… you’re going to have to deal with all that afterwards. Don’t let it consume you or mess up your plan. Exchange your currency and THEN go back and sort out those tangles. It could take years. You’ve been hearing about it for the last 4-5 years, and it’s become a reality. If you have given a lot away, I would be doing something about that so that I have some currency in hand. I’m not your legal adviser or your conscience, I’m just trying to help as best I can. If something dramatic happens, I will be doing a tweet and a call. I would be very happy to do a late Friday call! Meanwhile, enjoy your day. Let’s get this party started!