WEDNESDAY
TNT Call notes 12-August-2015
Dr. Kyre Adept
Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today is Wednesday, August 12, 2015. We seem to have some new listeners who didn’t connect cleanly. Let’s let this party begin! We are almost at the middle of the month, almost making it to another UN update day, so let’s hope that’s how it works out.
Many announcements were made in Iraq yesterday. Abadi announced all reforms have passed unanimously. They made the announcement to the people with the vote on television so everyone could see. They then celebrated that corruption is being removed from the government. In the process of that, “All day on Sunday thousands demonstrated in the street to support Abadi” and that is something they have to do for this to happen. It seems that it worked, they are being told the reforms passed, and they are on the verge of gaining purchasing greater than ever before for all citizens. The finance minister is making broadcasts about Iraq being a power in the international world. The citizens are pumped up seeing how their actions have enabled Abadi’s reforms against corruption.
That is why they were in the streets and why they think things are about to happen. The people we talk to are also happy, saying that it’s a help. Nothing needs to be done, but putting the PM and Finance minister on television saying that reforms are coming and they are about to be the richest in the region… that puts extra pressure on the government to bring in the real change they promised. They got rid of 15 major positions, and all their cronies have gone with them. They authorized the arrest of 200-300 people, so they are cleaning it up and making it a stable government/country for this to happen.
Everyone still thinks this is happening sometime this week, Monday to Sunday. We should actually see it. Over here there was another meeting this week, and everyone is agreed, on the same page, ready to do this. There is always a possibility that someone will screw it up. I know you want to talk about what China did: de-pegging and lowering their rates. That was supposed to happen after the RV, but they got tired of waiting and hearing “We’re going to it today, today, today,” Now we have to see what reaction comes to that. I think that it will work out as a good thing.
Zimbabwe started accepting the yuan today, along with the seven they already accept. This means that they are one step closer to a stable currency because it’s one more currency they are willing to exchange with. That is a great thing, because China is showing their faith in the Zimbabwe economy.
Rates are on some screens, not on others. They haven’t changed where we can see them. People are still being told to be ready at a moment’s notice. It’s a great day; we just happen to be back here without it being done. Nobody has a reason for why it’s not going apart from the need to have more confidence in the moment – that the system works, that the laws are in place (and they have all been approved, along with the reform measures). I cannot find one thing apart from people being overly cautious or super-sensitive about getting this done. You have to learn to overcome your fears. Everything is in place and they are just scared if they miss something, because once it’s done, it’s done.
404 caller: Have you noticed any changes in the exchange procedures?
Tony: I don’t know of any changes – we haven’t been made aware of any. The people who are actually doing them haven’t reported anything different. Can’t think of one!
We are looking good; we just need to get started.
Caller: May today be THE day! Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: Thanks. Yes, Pam just texted that it is One-question Wednesday!
617 caller: Have you talked to DC? Does he have an opinion on what’s delaying this?
Tony: Yes, he blames it on one group, but I’m not going to take responsibility for that. There is a group of people and I explained what they are working on, if you were listening. It is NOT the US!
Caller: Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! I’m really looking forward to seeing you there!
313 caller: It looks like it’s going to happen when?
Tony: Sometime this week. Anything we can see, that everyone can see, says that nothing else needs to be done. All the reforms have been done, people are moving out, and the banking laws are done. The banks are connected, and they are ready. They tested the other currencies in the last few weeks by having them go live for a few hours. The lucky ones walked in and got exchanged. I have been told that is the last time they are going to do that, though. The plan is to go ahead and go with the release, so we are in a good spot.
Caller: What is holding us up – can you repeat that?
Tony: I said people are being super-cautious, careful, concerned and worried about if they misinterpreted something and if they do this, what the reaction would. So they are going over and over again, making the dots bigger and the crosses longer, because once it is done, it’s done, and nobody wants to mess up. The world will be changed for hundreds of years. Everyone is scared they might mess up something. So we’ll see.
There is nothing holding it back apart from people not wanting to say “let it go”. There is no argument, no demands apart from the Iraqi people saying “We’re tired of hearing it; let it go.” No other country has a problem unless they have to adjust numbers because of what China did. They were supposed to do that afterwards, not before. That took everyone by surprise. Their economy is taking a hit, they tried to get this moving and finally they took things into their own hands.
318 caller: Where is my money?!
Tony: The same place as our money, sitting in someone else’s pocket!
Caller: Please take my number so that I can make a donation, because I don’t like doing that over the computer.
Tony: Here is the address: 9580 Oak Avenue Parkway, #7269, Folsom CA 95630. And thank you. I got letters in the mail and also emails asking me to contact you because your check hasn’t been cashed. If you sent a check to TNT Dinar, those checks have been shredded because there is no business or bank accounts for TNT. That’s why you haven’t seen them. I got it but there’s nothing I can do with them, so I’m glad you brought it up. I accept money orders, but not made out to TNT, TNT Tony, TNT Dinar, etc. If you make them out to Tony Renfrow, I can accept those.
323 caller: I just want to say that I thought Abadi… if it’s just about getting rid of those people, that’s the most brilliant thing he did to stall and stall until he could get rid of those guys. That lets them round up all the crooked things they did and get them at the last minute. That was the most brilliant thing of everything he has done.
Tony: That’s right, he didn’t have to fight all their people do get rid of them like this. I don’t know if he designed it that way or if it’s as a result of the people who protested. Now they know they do have a voice. The fact he eliminated people from ALL the groups is also a perfect way to say “let’s start over”.
757 caller: [chit chat] I have a group of people that I deal with, and they ask me for information, calling me “Tony Jr.” and they say you are lying So I listen to the calls, I get the information from the news, and I asked, “Why do you think he’s lying?” But you are just giving us the information; Tony doesn’t control the GCR. Just relax, calm down and let it play out. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas for everyone to go! It’s going to happen!
Tony: Pam and DC were having a conversation this morning, and we three were talking. Pam said that I should tell you on the call about what’s going on with China, because they were talking about it in chat and getting upset. You know, I’ve been doing this for five years, and in all that time I’ve been trying to get people do is to think for themselves. Get information from all the sources and come up with your own picture, your own conclusions. See where that comes out.
We were talking about the economy and what will happen afterwards. There is a lot of fear-mongering about the US dollar and economy collapsing, and about China collapsing, but most of them don’t know what we know about the GCR and the reaction to that all around the world. This will change everything, including those predictions. People don’t know that. People on this call have been talking about this for years, about how this will change the economy and the currencies after this. So many things will change! But people don’t want to take the time to listen and to do their own homework, and try to understand what we are talking about. Instead, they say, “tony said”… Tony is not God, and neither are those other people. It takes a village to raise a child and a whole world to make changes this big. If you look at the US, China, the IMF, the UN, and all the rest… some have veto parties. Do the numbers make sense? Does China’s actions have an impact? It’s not a matter of two hours during Tony’s call, but information worldwide 24/7. There are things happening at the bank right now, but if it doesn’t come out at the end, then we are accused of telling you too much or too soon. We told you about the exchange procedures, as they were doing them, in the moment. But if the whole thing doesn’t go through because something happened in Iraq, the IMF or the BIS… You have to realize how complex and difficult this is, and every time they get ready to go, something happens. They called people in and locked them in, ready to go…and we didn’t go. But at some point people have to be accountable for not trying understand the process. It’s not about me or any of the other gurus either, because no of them will KNOW until it after it happens. They have already said to me, “We’re not telling you until after it happens!” People in Iraq will tell me as soon as it happens, and they have said, “It’s definitely happening at 3pm this time”, and it just didn’t happen. So we are just like you, we’re heard it 1,000 times, and we are just waiting to see what happens. They are sending out the next window of opportunity. We don’t just go by what they say, by the memo, or what happened when they came out of the meeting. We look at what they are doing. We pay attention to actions, not words, like paying people and moving people around. It’s not the actual announcement but after that things will go crazy, and if they are not ready then, things will go crazy, because we will already know and there is no way to keep it quiet with the phones and internet. They have imposed a blackout before, and word still got out. They cannot keep the word from dinarians. You need to take this time we right now to understand and prepare for what your life will be like with this much money. Everyone will want your money, to get you to invest in this and that, asking for donations. You have to understand all this so that when it goes live, you can go back and say, “I guess he wasn’t lying, I guess they must have given him that information if the rates are what he said before.” Go back and look! WE usually give you information two days before any other site, so read, understand, learn and be ready.
773 caller: How are you?
Tony: I’m great! I just talked myself happy!
Caller: Everything is ready and has been done, and all the reforms have been passed. When did the reforms become important so that this thing can happen? It seems like every time this is ready to go, something else has to be done…
Tony: They didn’t have to get them done for the RV; they just give people more confidence in the RV. Every day there is intel over there, from the government and agencies, about corruption and greed. Those people have a different plan, and the government wants to do away with their theft and corruption. That is what people are being cautious about, so that no one person can walk in and destroy or take advantage of what they have spend years setting up. They have to deal with those issues beforehand because afterwards is too late. They hoped to get all this done before ISIL. Most understand how ISIL came into Iraq, and how that got out of hand, and that also needs to be dealt with before millions of dinars get revalued. They have to err on the side of caution before they release the RV.
Caller: Yes, I get all that, but this is a never-ending story.
Tony: It’s a matter of “when is enough, enough?” I don’t know when they feel comfortable enough that they can deal with anything that happens. In Iraq, they have to make sure that no one can walk off with the money, so they are installing anti-corruption laws before they let this loose. It makes sense. Three years ago, I was on a call (and they listen to our calls, the different agencies and bankers and governments). Every time we came up with a good plan, our own government came up with a rule change so that it couldn’t’ happen. That’s what they are doing over there. We may not like it, but they are doing it to protect their own country. All these countries that have dinar as a reserve currency, and if Iraq doesn’t do this right, those reserve currencies will be worthless, and nobody wants that.
Caller: I understand that. If they make a law, someone will figure out how to get around it. [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: Pam just texted and said I should make it clear that I was just using 3pm as an example NOT as an announcement of the RV.
703 caller: If we go past this weekend yet again, what are the chances we will have to wait to go through this with China as we did with Greece.
Tony: I don’t think it’s the same. It could still happen this week. I’ve been hearing ‘be calm, it’s happening, everyone is ready’ for over a month. My sources say that everybody is ready to go any minute, any day. There is just one group that is concerned if something goes wrong, they will be blamed. I cannot tell you when they will be satisfied. If it’s right, they are great; if it’s wrong, they are screwed forever. I think that China is applying pressure so that they will just do it. Could Abadi’s announcement that they took on those new laws, back unanimously by the Iraqi Parliament, removing those nasty people – could that be the final thing they need? I hope so. They saw the votes being taken, they know what the reforms were, so we’ll just have to see.
They cannot let China. This one is definitely coming up since they changed their leader in the last year.
Caller: Thank you, Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
610 caller: Has anyone confirmed if the Iraqi ministers have taken a cut in their salary?
Tony: I haven’t heard, but we have yet to hear that anyone has got paid. It’s the 12th, and they were supposed to have steady payments as of July. Iraq wants to do this and they are holding that pay until this happens, and it should happen this month.
Caller: Thank you, Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!, NC, NC, NC! I’m in Philadelphia.
Tony: I’m going to throw a party in Raleigh, and put that Texas barbecue to shame.
919 caller: Do they expect this to be completed by the end of the weekend.
Tony: I do. There is every opportunity for it to… and the rates are about the same.
281 caller: I[chit chat] I think it was significant about Maliki. Is there any one thing you can think of attached to the government there that might influence the release of this thing?
Tony: Iraq has been trying to do this. Iraq is saying, “what else? What else? We want to get on with rebuilding our country!” They still need loans and such because that is the nature of the beast. They are making themselves from a pumpkin into a prom queen, as best they can, and doing it with transparency so their people can see it as well as those other powers. I think they are doing pretty well, actually.
Ray: It’s be here when it gets here – everybody hold out!
Tony: We are waiting. It is going to happen. If you were really, really smart, you would have taken these last three weeks to put Plan B in motion to make up for anything you have lost in the last couple of months/years with some other currencies. There is a tremendous opportunity for you to make it up with a third of what you would have spent anyway. I know there will be a lot of conversation about this today and tomorrow, another currency will come up and you might have missed another tremendous opportunity to make up for your former Plan A. Plan B can be just as good if you take action. Enjoy your day; I will enjoy mine, and I surely hope this is the last day until we make the announcement call.
AUGUST 10 2015
MONDAY
TNT Call notes 10-August-2015
Dr. Kyre Adept
Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today is Monday, August 10, 2015. We didn’t do a call on Friday. It’s a great day to be alive and to be a dinarian.
Friday and over the weekend we should have heard something and right now we should be at the bank exchanging. There was some conversation on Friday that was sensitive, and you all heard about the reforms over the weekend – some people being restricted and others being told they are no longer employed. We expect to hear a lot more of that tomorrow.
Where are we now? All that news came out. My understanding is that Parliament will ratify all that tomorrow morning, going down from 37 to 15 positions. We keep being told there is one more thing. Nobody has got paid so far in Iraq, and this month’s paycheck should show a difference in amount and in rate. That should tell us this is the month. Some are still being told this week, somewhere in the next five days. I am optimistic, because they have gone to the next level of secrecy, closing ranks and keeping it from certain people. That tells us they are ready. It’s hard to get people prepared without telling people that they are ready – without broadcasting the rates, bringing people in, sending out memos, etc. That’s harder and harder to do; however, that means it’s closer and closer for us. We’ll see.
The whole being quiet this weekend was so you could be at the bank today, but you’re not. They were sensitive about meetings being broadcast, but now they have been. Now they are saying sometime this week, and this should be the last week.
828 caller: So it feels like this is the last week, by Friday afternoon?
Tony: That’s what it feels like to me, like we’re in the window. It could be today! What should have happened this weekend should happen this week. I have one guy in Iraq who has given a timeframe but I’m not going with that until others confirm it.
Caller: Is this still about Abadi letting this go and they won’t let him push the button?
Tony: That has always been the case. They support Abadi doing this until the moment they call him and say “You can’t do it.” It could be President Obama, Christine Lagarde or one other person.
Caller: That sounds like great news. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
301 caller: Can you tell us any of the rates?
Tony: There are no rates on the board as of yesterday, or rather, they have changed the access level so everyone can’t see them, which is a great thing.
Caller: On Wednesday and Monday you said that first-time callers don’t understand … I get up very early in the morning and check to make sure my call hasn’t dropped. We think this call is important enough that we get on very early to make sure our question is answered. If they are so concerned to get on the call, maybe they need to get on as early as we do.
Tony: I understand what you’re saying. I have 5-10 people here for over 300 minutes, and not everyone can do that because of jobs, families, commitments. So sometimes it’s not fair for only those who can stay on for five hours are the only ones getting on the call, over and over again.
Caller: [restated same point over again] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
860 caller: I’m doing fantastic – great news you had for us today. I have a question from a friend: do you have to have a bank account before the RV happens?
Tony: I don’t think you have to at all. I understand that some banks will take their current account holders first, and maybe even release their funds more quickly. However, everyone will be able to get an account after this happens.
Caller: Let’s look for this to be a happy week! Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
601 caller: [Appreciation]
318 caller: I thought you were super-fantastic! You answered about the rates…
Tony: I will be later when I get more information. Maybe we should have Monday evening calls. We have several different sources and we like to see if the rates are matching. The put up a new screen explaining why some people cannot see the rates, but some can actually see them. They are going to one more level of secrecy, and that means they are closer to ready. That’s at the same four banks as usual.
Caller: That sounds like good news. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
602 caller: I’m great, same as you, waiting to be superfantastic. I see that Greece is now trading; is Iran trading too?
Tony: I don’t’ know.
Caller: So the Iran deal going back and forth has nothing to do with this?
Tony: We waited for Iran in April and in June, and I don’t think we can wait any longer for Iran. We have a solution either way.
Caller: The UN usually changes their operational rates on the 1st, but they can change them at any time, right?
Tony: They change them on the 1st and the 15th, so they could change in five days.
Caller: The Iraqi people haven’t been paid yet – will they get paid this month?
Tony: My people over there say the taxes and tariffs have gone into effect, and people are very upset because the rate hasn’t changed so they cannot afford it. That’s why Abadi suspended the tariffs, and they are taking a vote tomorrow on the other reforms. They are saying the world will change this week, so we’ll see what happens.
Caller: [Appreciation] We missed you on Friday. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
512 caller: I recently got a letter from my exchange company offering me some free dinar. Have you heard of anyone doing this?
Tony: I haven’t heard anything like that. If they are handing out free dinar, I’ll take some!
Caller: They said it’s because of being a long-term customer and the reserve problems. If you go to SecureReserve, you can still roll over your existing reserves but they are not setting up any new reserves. I took your advice and put Plan B into action.
Tony: I would count on seeing any reserves, as I have said in the past. I’m not saying it’s impossible, just that I wouldn’t count on it. There’s a difference.
Caller: Thanks! Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
219 caller: <sarcasm> You are doing a great job of deceiving us. You encourage us to wait, and you strongly suggest we put aside 50% for taxes, but it’s our money. You tell us that we can spend the money but still use it to make up to 20%. You are telling us not to give anyone our dinar, but we can give it to anyone we want. You keep telling us to build up our community, so people will knock on our doors asking for money. Pam tells us we know what to do. This corrupt government… and then you say we should be careful about giving money in case it messes with their benefits. Wow, this must be a really good deception, when the person is teaching you as they are deceiving you. No wonder people are mad at you! I hope people get that this is sarcastic, because many are praying for you and our ability to rebuild this country.
Tony: Many people don’t realize that we are their best asset to understand this process and making sure they know what is going on instead of being the crackheads they think the general public is. They should be grateful we are here helping people NOT be those who will be broke again in two years. But it is what it is.
Caller: We have learned a lot on the calls, what we can do with the money and how we can help people, and also to keep ourselves safe from fame and all that can happen.
Tony: Thank you very much; I appreciate it. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
501 caller: I only have one question… I have a daughter in Michigan and I couldn’t find a WF or BoA listed in that state. Where can my daughter exchange?
Tony: There are other banks including tier 2 banks, and I’m sure they will have sister banks that will handle exchanges. If you call Pam, she will have real estate offices and such that will act as exchange centers. [Pam: You idiot!]
770 caller: We have been in a holding pattern, and I understand that they have to make this law or move that person. But we’ve been waiting since Christmas. What is the incentive for anyone to do anything on our behalf?
Tony: I think you misunderstood this whole process – they are not doing this on our behalf. We are lucky that the word got as far as it did so that we knew to buy currency.
Caller: I understand that. The banks will pick and choose who to exchange, but there is no incentive for them to ever exchange us – ever.
Tony: You are missing the point. There is no incentive/plan for them to do it for you; the plan is to do it for Iraq and other countries, and your being able to exchange is just a by-product of the whole plan. Those who exchanged in the last two years were the fortunate few, but there is no plan for us. There is still something else going on with Iraq, the US, IMF and the rest, and when they get happy with that situation, we will reap the benefit of it. It’s not about us. We have a call and a plan, and they would go back and make a new rule to block those plans. They changed a lot of banking laws at the beginning of July. They knew there would be a lot of money out there, and they want to have control of that. I understand that. But it’s not about us, or what they will do for us. They aren’t dragging us along, they are dragging Iraq along. They have no heat, A/C, electricity or water, they have no money and now they are being taxed on top of that. It’s not our job to make them do this for Iraq or for us; we are not a forcing factor, not when we don’t really know what is going on in the background. We are standing on the sidelines, just waiting for some team will win so that we can get the benefit.
Caller: I understand that part. If we take the elite who exchanged, they won before the people in Iraq, who are still suffering. I feel for them, because people who don’t need it have got their money, and the people in Iraq are still suffering and haven’t got their money. I’m not saying it’s about us, I’m just wondering what incentive there is to move this on. [Made same point all over again.]
Tony: What is their incentive to do this? There are other things going on. We have people who already got paid, and so has Iraq and other countries. That’s the reality – they are looking after their friends. The incentive for the rest is when Iraq decides that it has had enough and they raise up. A lot of these reforms is to calm down the Iraqi people. Did they do it to drag it out even further? Abadi says he is trying to get this accomplished. We know that all the banking laws have been passed, and they have connected the banking system so that this can move forward. Another currency escaped briefly and people got exchanged. Those things will continue to happen until its our day. Every day it changes, and someone brings up another point. I can’t tell you that one moment. What I can say is this: You will get the information that’s happening today from somebody who just walked out of the meeting or glanced at the screen or the memo. We give you the information right away and everyone gives it two days later, by which time it’s changed. We are giving you LIVE updates. That is complicated for a lot of people to keep up with. You are involved in the motion of this and how it’s coming about. That’s the reality. We want to say ‘when is it our turn’ rather than the announcements and meetings, but every time they do that, look how Iraq changes in a day – not in terms of the money but how their government operates. They had massive corruption and now people are going to jail if they do the wrong things. They are also letting their people know that they live ina democracy, that they are living in the 21stcentury with laws and rules so that things can be accomplished. Everything they are doing is making it better. They can do this at any moment because all the financial parts are done. The rates are on the boards, they have tested the banks, and we should be next to go.
Caller: For you to do what you do must grueling. But every time we hear “you can’t do this” or “we’re taking this away”. But all we do is wait, and then there is even less.
Tony: I don’t see that! Two years ago there was a discussion saying ‘here’s the minimum rate, and the amount we will do in contract rates’. None of that has changed! What concerns us is what happens when this actually comes out. The only thing that has been taken away is the reserves. Two years ago, we told people to stop buying reserves, that they didn’t want the reserves and they would stop them. I didn’t see how they would do that with private businesses, but sure enough, they figured out a way to do that. That is done and there’s nothing you can do about it apart from going to Plan B. In many calls, we suggested people back off reserves. When I started, there were no reserves; it came into the plan, and then it went away just as easily. So that is where we are. They haven’t taken anything from us; we just haven’t gone. It’s still the same plan as two years ago.
Caller: Thank you, Tony. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Jerry on Skype: I would say I’m great but yesterday my mother passed at age 86.
Tony: Hopefully she led a beautiful life.
Jerry: She did, but even though we were expecting it, it’s still upsetting. I heard you talking to someone in Louisiana; do you know for sure that there will be places to exchange there?
Tony: Louisiana? Where is that? <laughter> Do you have WF, Chase, Citi or Bank of America? Yes? Then there will be somewhere to exchange.
Jerry: I will pass that on. Just reading blogs and hearing people on the call, you need to understand that this is an investment plain and simple. You cannot make people do what you want because YOU have an investment. You might need your money, but you have to wait until they do what they do. It’s not about YOU. Tony, you are so dedicated to helping people understand week after week, and you have a good heart for standing up and helping people understand what they seem to be having problems getting hold of. Tony doesn’t control any currency in the world; it’s not Tony’s fault that we are still waiting on dinar, zim, dong or any other currency.
Tony: And Tony doesn’t get paid off it, either. No government, dealer or anyone else is paying me for any currency you buy – never have, never will. That’s not my purpose in being here.
Jerry: Jealousy, envy and strife cause people to hate for no reason. A lot of this rhetoric is to make them feel better by tearing down Tony. I don’t have any remit for Tony; I don’t know Tony. Keep up what you are doing. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
432 caller: Have you heard from Okie lately?
Tony: Let me think. I did hear from him over the weekend; he called me on Friday and on Saturday. He’s doing well. He’s one of my favorite people. Hold on a second… I just tried to call him but he didn’t answer. He’s alive and doing well.
Caller: Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
559 caller: I’m super-fantastic! That’s all it takes! We all send our condolences and prayers to Jerry; she is not in his past any more but she will be in his future, so that’s something to look forward to. I was on hold for the call, from 3am onwards, something like 500 minutes. Why not just do the call in the evening? Since you don’t’ get your info until later in the day, and many people are at work during the day, people would have more of an opportunity to be on the call in the evening.
Tony: At 3pm here it’s 6pm on the East Coast, and Pam’s husband gets upset if he does not get dinner and people are in the car; if I do it at 6pm here, it’s 9pm there, and people are putting their kids to bed. That’s why we don’t do it in the evening, because Pam has to cook dinner. People do listen at work. And if we didn’t do our call in the morning, when would the other sites do their calls, because they wait for our news? <laughter>
Caller: Does this delay have anything to do with the bombing in Kabul?
Tony: No, it has to do with the announcements and such. It was supposed to go at the weekend, people got all excited, and then it didn’t happen. Parliament is supposed to meet tomorrow/tonight, and I think we will have a clearer picture then.
Caller: Shouldn’t the military be in line to have their turn – those who were in Iraq back then are still waiting. This has got out of hand.
Tony: Yes, there was a plan but other countries got involved and it spiraled out of control. Many changes have been made to the original plan. Sure, the military might get the benefits first, and there are exchange locations at the major military bases, so…
Caller: I appreciated the lady with the sarcastic speech. We missed the birthdays and my anniversary, but this is happening! Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
916 caller: We go to 24-Hour Fitness in this area (Roseville) and we see this nice car drive up everyday, and the license plate says TNT. We all said, “That must be Tony!” We waited and waited and eventually this 95-year-old guy walked out to the car. We hoped it might be one of your family members.
Here’s the question: Some of our friends have had currencies for ten years. We are so grateful for what your team bring to the table. Given sources in the financial and religious sectors, and now predicting the US Day of Reckoning is in September, and if there is not an RV so that we can buy hard assets, then if the dollar collapses our US dollars will be worthless, shouldn’t those who have already exchanged do something?
Tony: That is a controversial question, and I will give my own opinion. First, if the US government and economy are about to collapse, what difference does it make if they give it to you now or next year/ Because worthless is worthless. Why would they have been delaying it all this time to put in place the banking laws and such? IF the dollar loses half its value, they will have to give you twice as many dollars for your currency! If the US economy collapses, the world economy will collapse as well. People are fear-mongering and they are always getting something out of it. If it’s going to be 50%, it’s going to be cut in half no matter if your money is in your hand, the bank or under the mattress.
Everything else in terms of when this goes or who gets paid, we will still see the benefits when it actually happens. There is nothing I can go to change those who have already exchanged.
Caller: With all respect to you and everyone involved in this, we made a difference when we had the twitter campaign. We were able to participate. The elite got their money and I do believe that they don’t want us to have our money. I hope that they are wrong about September 16th, but if they are not, at least we would have had something to bring us through that.
Tony: First, you have to believe what they are saying, which I do not. What is the point of being a whale in a pond. If you are the only ones at the top, what is the benefit if the rest of the country collapses around you? Let’s say they did that, and I’ll have to put this very delicately. That is what happened in Syria, in Libya and what was happening in Iraq – people took to the streets. That is not an option until it actually happens and I don’t think it will happen.
Caller: Ron Paul’s predictions for 2008 and 2011 actually happened, and he is predicting something similar now. I need to have three surgeries; if I could exchange, I could take care of myself and also take care of others. It’s not about my being rich, it’s about things going on. If I could just make sure that I had a few assets to buy silver and gold that I could then use to barter with…. That’s what I am passionate about.
Tony: I do feel it, guys. People want me to do something, but right now we cannot do that. We are this close, and we are still part of this process. Yes, we are suffering and there are things people want to get accomplished in their lives. It’s just the same for my life, and we are all suffering. WE cannot react until there is something to react to, and at present they are doing what needs to be done. If September comes and the economy collapse and they have been paid and we have not, then there is something do be done. They do understand; they know who we are and what we are doing.
Caller: Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
323 caller: Have any of the groups gone through? I saw something online yesterday that the Admiral’s group went through.
Tony: This is what I know. Some people say they have got emails from their paymasters saying they have been funded and the people will see their money in the next X days. I’ll wait and see if that has actually happened. People I have talked to for years, who are just as broke as you and me, they bought two luxury cars and they didn’t win the lottery. Yes, they were part of a group, so something happened. We were all supposed to be paid this morning, but here we are.
936 caller: Everything that’s been said over the past year or two about money in and out of Iraq, bonds trading, tariffs… it seems that 1+1 doesn’t equal 2. Is it possible this will go and leave us in the US high and dry.
Tony: We are NOT going to be left out of this at all. Too many people in this country have already exchanged. There are too many documents floating around out there to show that, and too many exchange locations that are known to enough people that they wouldn’t even attempt to hide it. We are past that. They know they have to exchange us, they know the minimum rate, and we will get paid when Iraq goes. It won’t happen before Iraq goes, even if there have been a few exceptions here and in Iraq. A few people there have exchanged and bought cars and such. It’s too public, so the fears of our not being paid are unfounded.
Caller: I saw something on chat about the current administration wants to hold us off until October 2016.
Tony: I don’t say every single person in this administration wants us to exchange, but the administration as a whole certainly does. Let’s say it gets delayed until October 2016 or even January 2017 – who then gets the credit? Would you want that on your watch or the next President’s watch? This is the administration’s sword and carrot to put these deals together that will change history, that is bringing these countries back from the dead. Am I going to do all that and then let the next administration take the credit?
Caller: That’s what we were saying over the weekend. We know that there are people who do have the power to push that button.
Tony: There are. It was supposed to go this weekend – that’s why they asked me not to do the call on Friday. People were at the banks at midnight all frustrated because they expected this on Friday night. I’m sure there was a reason why it didn’t happen, but they all know it’s going to happen.
Caller: How is DC doing? And Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: He’s doing fine.
Pam: I don’t know what to say after today’s call. Complaining about complaining is still complaining. We are in the middle of the biggest financial change of all time. We are lucky to be here at all, and just like the Iraqi people we will be rewarded for our strength and belief and will move forward beyond our wildest dreams.
Tony: I truly didn’t believe that we would be here this morning. I didn’t send out any tweets because it was sensitive up until this call. If something really good happens, then of course I will send out a tweet or do a call. We are still right there on the edge. This is our week; things can change within the hour. Hopefully this will be our last call in this manner. Enjoy your day and I’ll enjoy mine. Thanks, everybody!
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