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SEPTEMBER 25 2015
FRIDAY
TNT Call notes 25-September-2015
Dr. Kyre Adept
[Sorry these are late; I had insuperable wifi problems this morning.]
Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today is Friday, September 25, 2015. How are you guys doing going into this absolute fabulous weekend? I didn’t think we’d be here, but we’ll make the best of it. Things are looking really, really good and people are really, really excited.
Does it mean they are waiting for Abadi to come to the UN? There are 200 world leaders at the UN today and tomorrow. They are focused on climate control. In back rooms away from cameras could be about this… are there going to be discussions about it, I’m sure there will be..
I had a bank person tell us that he works in a bank and not seeing anything there. Asked if this is going to be a Super Fantastic Weekend. Is it scheduled to be? Yes. That is because there are six more days in the month. It is scheduled to happen by the 30th of this month and any one of those days could be the day. It was released to go yesterday but it didn’t…
Is this a good day for us? Yep. Is it a good weekend for us? Yes. Is it a good 6 days for us? Absolutely: the rates are the same at almost every bank; they had adjustments on the back screens yesterday, which is ok because you will still love it anyway. A whole lot of info came out yesterday; people ramped up and where they’re at. They have their procedures. A lot of people have been calling the banks this week; rates have been popping up for an hour or two then going away.
Abadi plans to travel to NY after the holiday, but my understanding is today; it could be Monday. If he comes after the holiday, I don’t think you guys will care. I hope that’s the plan anyway. Everything is lined up and screens are back where they’re supposed to be. Only one currency is lower than our numbers; don’t worry though, it’s still great! If Abadi comes on Monday, that’s a four-day holiday. Let’s let him come today or tomorrow so we can all celebrate. Everything is lined up, things are where they should be backstage.
404 caller: if I didn’t say correctly, they had an opportunity to do it, don’t know if they tried to do it, but the window was opened for them to do it
Tony: They had authorization to do it not that it was supposed to. I don’t even know that they had tried to do it.
Caller: when they give you this info, is it usually morning or within 24 hour window
Tony: They give me three times during the day they could do it.
602 caller: [chitchat] The dates that changes on the screens – was that Wednesday’s date or is there a new date? Have we passed that yet?
Tony: No, Monday was the day! On the 15th, and the 17th, it said “Part 1 activated”. That activation is still there. On the 19th, it switched to the 21st. Maybe this time Part 1 is actually activated, because they did say today. We are waiting for Part 2, which has a date that has not changed. So my understanding is that it could happen any time but there IS a date.
Caller: Vegas, Vegas, Vegas so we can all go and meet you out there!
872 caller: [chitchat] It may be our day, can’t get any better than that.
Tony: Do you have some good news for us? [chitchat]
Caller: You never say much about the call centers these days – are there still going to be call centers?
Tony: I don’t know. Don’t worry, we will still be here to explain things. They will take your call, but there might be some tweaking to how that is accomplished. There has been a suggestion that they are letting too much information out, but over the next six days we will know.
Caller: Vegas, Vegas, Vegas, and you have a blessed weekend.
972 caller: In the past, DC was always packed and ready to go…
Tony: That is so funny! Pam, DC and I go through this, while Ray is always packed because he travels. IN the military, you have to have a go bag that stays packed all the time. He’s used to that. Pam, Ray and DC are always packed for this situation; is Tony packed? No. Pam has been packed so many times she has a bag for every season. Now, they say it doesn’t matter if they tell me to pack because I’m not going to do it until they call me! I’m excited and ready, yes, and I think I’ll have to pack within the next few days because the meetings are very good with memos going back and forth. I’m looking through the closet to take this or that, but not putting it in the suitcase.
Caller: Thank you very much and Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
919 caller: Denzel Washington is going to play you in the movie! [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas and Raleigh, Raleigh, Raleigh! You are my true compass and I believe everything you guys tell us.
512 caller: All the boys in Georgetown are super-enthused about what you do and we got up a little donation and sent it your way. About the MasterCards – you’re saying that an Iraqi citizen with a MC can put it in an ATM machine and get local currency?
Tony: Yes, so there must be a rate in their internal system. It hasn’t made it to the public system yet, that’s all. They have announced to their people that they can use their cards in any other country, so they have to have a rate in every country.
Caller: In other words, they are just blocking information at the teller level. We went into twelve banks, just as test, and they looked at it as if we had three heads.
Tony: You’ll know before they know. If they knew, they would take off at lunchtime, buy as much dinar/dong as they could, and come back the next day to exchange it, then walk off the job at 5pm… and the banks don’t want that. The banks wouldn’t open! We don’t even want that to happen.
918 caller: I’m taking a nap; my girlfriend wants to ask you a question.
(GF) [Appreciation] I have family members I purchased for – it’s their money, but the receipts are in my name. How do I handle that legally? Am I going to be responsible for the taxes?
Tony: What I would do – just my opinion – is to make out a gift letter today and give it to them TODAY. You can give them a copy of the receipt if you want to as well, so that there is a paper trail. That should cover you. That’s how I would do it.
Caller: I’ve already done all that, but I wanted to talk to you and make sure I did it the right way. Some of them are older and a bit leery. What about the taxes?
Tony: Once you have made the gift, they are responsible for their own taxes, not you.
Pam: Tell us what’s going on in Iraq, please.
Tony: We know people got paid on Monday and Tuesday. I haven’t talked to anyone in Iraq today. It’s difficult to get through to anyone in Iraq on Friday mornings because they are at the mosque. We were getting so much information yesterday, and people are so excited… I hope they are getting money there and that we will soon get it here. They are celebrating the Eid holiday over there, and I hope we will get updates after 3pm today.
206 caller: I get on the call so late I never imagine my number will come up!
Tony: Wait a minute. My adviser says that the gift letter is not the best choice; it’s better to create an affidavit saying it was a pass-through payment.
Caller: I hope to send you a little gift later. Would you rather see us exchange before or after the devaluation of the dollar?
Tony: Before, because I get more dollars that way. When the dollar devalues, I want to have more of them.
Caller: Would it not be more advantageous for them to delay it until after devaluation. Isn’t that supposed to come next month?
Tony: Why would the dollar devalue without the GCR occurring? I don’t see that. What’s going to make it devalue if not the GCR? That is what makes the dollar devalue, unless someone knows something I don’t… It’s not something we have to worry about until after.
Caller: Do you think that they have plans to devalue the dollar next month because of their plans this month?
Tony: I do know that the dollar will come down a bit because the other currencies are coming up. The stronger the dollar is, the worse the global economy is. China has just passed the US as the most productive economy.
Caller: What are we expecting this time? Roosevelt devalued the dollar 40%.
Tony: I’m expecting 2-3%; there is no way it’s going down 30-40%. That is the biggest joke in the world. We will hardly notice it. Those who don’t have dinar will notice it, but we’ll still be the #2 economy in the world. The US has become a consumer economy rather than producers. Unless one of our presidential candidates figures that out, it’s not going to improve much.
Caller: If you can convert that into encouragement, you’re good! I will hope for the best, like we all will. Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
870 caller: So much has changed. Do we still need to hurry to the bank to get the contract rates? What about first, second, third mouse?
Tony: It’s still there because that is a consumer issue, not a bank issue. I would do it within a 3-4 day window. There are still contract rates, and it depends on the speed of your appointment, how much you have, and how you present yourself.
Caller: Is it okay to take an attorney to check the NDA and such?
Tony: I think they would prefer you to go in to your appointment by yourself. Are you single? Tell you husband to stay home, and take your attorney; tell your banker that you want your husband/attorney to look things over. I’m just joking.
You sound like an older lady, and they want you to be comfortable. Take who you want, and assume it’s okay unless they tell you otherwise. Nothing beats a failure but a try. You need to be ready.
Caller: Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
Tony: A guy sent me an email from Dallas – he is made cuff links from gold and diamonds that he is making me. He sent me a picture. They looks beautiful, thanks!
513 caller: Do you have any more insight into how they might roll this out?
Tony: I got a lot of insight yesterday, but don’t think they want it out at this time; they tweaked it, not totally changed it, and we’ll find out the final tweaks on the final day.
Caller: [Appreciation] I hope you enjoy your stay in Vegas!
405 caller: Last time I heard the rates, it was dong = 47 cents, dinar = $3.91…
Tony: The dong rates sounds good, dinar is between $3.22 and $3.91. Pam?
Pam: I don’t think there’s much you didn’t tell them! You guys have heard all the possible scenarios, everything we hear as we heard it, so when it happens you’ll know how to handle it. You have plenty of time, and you guys can do this. You know a lot more than you think you know; take your time, you’ll be great.
Tony: Just don’t panic. I hope you have all made your plans, with the minor issues of when is my bank appointment and how much will I get? Ray?
Ray: I haven’t prepared any extra speeches: goodbye! I’ve enjoyed it!
Tony: We are still in that time frame. People are excited all around the world, comfortable with the next days and what is being accomplished. Be ready to initiate and follow your plan. It’s out of our hands completely. Those few who are involved are all going to be in New York, discussing it face-to-face, saying “let’s get this party started!” I see the big picture, I’m not staying up at night waiting for the call because when I get it, I’m ready to go. I don’t have my go bag, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t have yours. That’s it, hope to talk to you over the weekend. Enjoy your day!
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TNT Call notes 23-September-2015
Dr Kyre Adept
[Pam: Some are having browser compatibility issues. Listen to the recording!]
Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today is Wednesday, September 23, 2015. We are here and so much closer to the end, it is my firm belief. Before we get started, yesterday I got a phone call. We haven’t asked for any donations because I keep thinking this thing is over, but it hasn’t happened and our bill is due. It’s a month behind but we kept hoping that it would happen so we left it. Those who can, please help us out because it is due, it is red, and they did call me. I paid what I could, but…
I put on a countdown on a text message, because my information is that this is happening by the end of the month, within seven days. The activation dates on the screen were the 15th, the 18th, and the 21st, which was Monday. People were told it was supposed to be activated that day. Is there is a new date? There is a day they’re saying this should be completed by, but no new date on the screen. The rates have not changed for the last five days; they have been holding steady. This is all really good information. We know Abadi wanted people paid by tomorrow. That’s when the holiday begins.
Their cards were all activated and they can use them outside the country. They have used them outside the country and as of this morning there is a different rate when they do that. If I put out the rate today, people will be upset, but it’s a rate we will truly love, without a doubt.
I thought that was really good news, because how long can they hide that, that Visa and MasterCard are using the new rate in their system. That has to come to us sooner or later, and it has to show up if they are transferring those rates in and out of the country. I have to put these pieces of the puzzle together, especially as others are saying we HAVE to see this release by a certain date. It’s not much longer to the agreed-upon date, and then the money flows, the dam breaks, there is an explosion or we see what happens. I know there have been four dates assigned to this, and they have passed all four, and nothing happened, even though they told their people. But at least they gave us actual dates for the first time in five years!
I was talking on the phone or in the bank this weekend and Monday and yesterday. We had people who went to the bank and exchanged foreign currency – not the dinar, another one that is in the basket. It started with 7-8 people who exchanged; I talked to one who told us the amount and it is consistent with what others got. After multiple exchanges, the bank called back and tried to get to the money back! Some people had the foresight to move the money out of the bank after the transaction, so the bank couldn’t get it back. At a tier 2 bank, the guy at the bank said he couldn’t exchange my contact because he was exchanging his customers, and sent him to another bank. He went to the other bank and by the time he became a customer, the rate went back down. Yesterday, someone was quoted a rate, and by the time the manager approved it, the rate went down, but they still did the exchange and the person got his money. There was a explosion – different banks were doing exchanges between Saturday and yesterday.
I don’t think it will happen today. You had to be at the right place at the right time, but hopefully, it won’t matter because the goal is still to have it completed this month. Everyone is working with this as a global window. Every day it’s changing, but that’s what they are working with right now.
I had a call and some texts where someone is saying (once again) that US citizens will not see this RV, that you have to go through this one guy to get this RV. This is for the public, and they have exchange centers for the public. If it were only for groups, why would they have this systems, these exchanges centers all over the place, and have trained all these people. These are scare tactics so that you will turn over your dinar to them. The banks want your currency and exchange, they don’t want it to happen through one individual. We are lining up for a good time!
828 caller: Can you expound on a comment you made last Friday about “the RV should occur by the end of the month one way or another”? What did you mean by that?
Tony: My understanding is that the powers that be want it to be done by the end of the month, and I think it will be. Iraq has been wanting this for months, and everyone else wants it done as well although a few things are being tweaked. Iraq wants it released by the holiday which starts tomorrow; they have asked people not to protest over the holidays, and they wouldn’t protest if they have money to buy things and celebrate. People are still asking Iraq to do different things and people are still fighting the reforms. They have set a deadline to have everything done by the 29th, but the RV can go before then. They are being told to be ready before the end of the month. The date has not changed since Monday; they change it as they pass every due date. Did they change it because of the cards? I don’t know why they have not changed the date when they have changed it 4-5 times. They say they can use the cards at the international rate, but they haven’t changed the rate. Everyone I talk to says they want to change it by the end of this month.
Caller: How we will know when the Raleigh celebration will be held?
Tony: We will still have Twitter, our other sites, all the rest… I will send it out so you can follow it, even if we have to change the Twitter name. Everyone who has donated, I will also send out an email blast along with those who are in the forum. We can also put up a new site if we need to.
404 caller: Given all the intel you’ve shared, what’s the best time frame we can anticipate the Vegas event? Will that be in the fourth quarter or the start of 2016?
Tony: If I can do it within 15 days, I will – but Vegas is booked out from 1. November. I would try to do it during October, as soon as possible, if there is any venue available. I would throw it together, just so we can get together. If nothing is available, then it will have to be in the New Year. We will look for the first available date for four days in a big enough space, but we’ll have to see how many people want to come, because it will be in the thousands.
Caller: Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! Hopefully in the next few days…
432 caller: News is sounding great. Can you give my number to Okie?
Tony: We are just waiting. The opportunity is still here and we are waiting for it. I haven’t talked to Okie in few days; he is still sick, but he’s still excited about what’s happening. He’s still getting the news…
Caller: I’ll see you in Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
601 caller: I have a hypothetical question. I’ve been in this for nine years, after two years of research – it just made sense to me that the value would have to go up. All these different countries are not playing nicely together now, but if they fell apart, will the GCR and the RV still happen?
Tony: Yes, it will, because it was designed that way. The RV will still happen, even if the GCR did not, and Britain and the UK would go back to our original deal.
I got a letter from some people in Britain; they chastised me for not giving me enough credit for participating in the Iraq war and the group that put this together. They are right – Britain was a big part of that. The first time I got in trouble in DC was when I mentioned the UK. We do respect and appreciate you; you will always be our partners, and we are glad you are part of this, too.
352 caller: What is the significance behind debt forgiveness for Iraq and Zimbabwe? Does that play into the RV at all?
Tony: The less debt you have, the more valuable your currency is. We want Zimbabwe to be of as much value as possible; by wiping out the debt, the value of the currency goes up, so you will still have that value because you hold the currency. The same is true of Iraq.
Jerry on Skype: Someone was asking me if the UN operational deadline applies here.
Tony: That usually comes out on the 1st or 15th, but it doesn’t really matter – Iraq will change the rates whenever they choose. It would be easier to change it once.
Caller: What about their fiscal year?
Tony: Their fiscal year starts on October 1st, just like ours. Yes, there are good reasons for this to happen by then, but we just have to wait and see what happens.
773 caller: Good weekend?
Tony: It could have been better – I am dragging around stuff that you guys don’t know. I thought this would be over by now!
Caller: So there is an international rate on the cards – is it better than in-country? And are the Visa and MasterCards different than the Qi cards?
Tony: Oh, yeah! The rate is better — that’s what my guy told me! And with Visa/MC, you go to an ATM and it gives you the local currency, so they have to have an exchange rates with all those countries. Whether it is 1166, 800 or some other rate, then Visa and MC has to expose that rate in the very near future, and my guy said it was a great rate. I don’t know if they can use their Qi cards outside the country, but they are saying they can transfer funds between their cards and accounts. They are calling this ‘port conversions’.
954 caller: How many currencies are in the basket?
Tony: There are five that I know of.
410 caller: I know you cannot give a date, but can you give a time – such as in the middle of the night, or after the markets close, or whatever?
Tony: I think the optimum time is between midnight and 6am EST. You don’t have to look for it in the middle of the night because the banks don’t open until 9am. If they make the announcement and we do the tweet, you’ll still have to call the 800 numbers. I don’t get up in the middle of the night to look for it, and don’t recommend you do so.
Caller: My friend is heading to Mexico for a week; should she take her currency, or just take a note and have a better time?
Tony: I don’t know what the requirements are in Mexico. If you have a note in your hand, you can at least try at the airport or wherever. She could be at the right place at the right time and they might give it to her.
Caller: I’m excited! I heard that Abadi is making a trip during the holiday…?
Tony: I haven’t heard that. Where to?
Caller: I heard that he and another minister were coming to the US, and I couldn’t figure out why they would do that during their holiday.
Tony: The Chinese President arrived yesterday, and will meet with the President tomorrow and then the UN the next day. The Pope is meeting with the President and the UN this week as well. Some people say it’s all about the RV, others say it might be about global warming and things he wants to talk about. I don’t know.
239 caller: Are there any problems with gifting people with 100 trillion zim notes? I know there is a limit of $14,000, but I’ve already given it to them…
Tony: At the moment, it’s valueless, so I don’t see any problems. Yes, you should give those gifts NOW, before it revalues.
Caller: [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
352 caller: Mtn Goat said the Visa/MC won’t go international until after the RV.
Tony: The CBI has announced that they can use their cards internationally, and this contact has already used his card in this country and told me the rate.
Caller: Many have gone to restaurants over the last month and given $3 as a tip. I would hope that they could send the same to you as a donation for all the benefits you have given us.
Tony: We are a month and a half behind. I really hoped we would be through with this by now, so I haven’t mentioned it, but Pam says we are red-lined now. Our address is
9580 Oak Avenue Parkway, #7269, Folsom CA 95630-7269; we appreciate it! If you send a check or money order, you have to make it out to Tony Renfrow. TNT doesn’t have a bank account, so I have to shred those if you send checks to TNT.
405 caller: We’ve heard September 30th is the deadline for zim – has that been extended? If this doesn’t happen by then, what will do they do?
Tony: They will probably wait until the GCR is announced, and then give a date. They are pushing to get this done before 1. October. If something else happens beyond their control, I think they will still do it as soon as possible. This is not designed to go to next year, for instance.
Caller: [Appreciation] Let’s just get this show on the road!
Tony: Pam says it’s time.
Pam: I am all set! You know more than you think you know. Take your time. You can do this, and we’ll all get there together.
Ray: hang in there, continue to enjoy this When will I see it Wednesday!
Tony: I haven’t heard any negative news – everyone is ready, banks have been notified. Quite a few people have been able to exchange, and regional managers have been giving more information to their branches, moving people to exchange locations, etc. They have notified more wealth managers, and they are building up to the release to the public, getting their people ready for that. I’m going to enjoy the rest of my day, hoping this is the last call. If not, I hope we’ll be here for the next one! All the news is good, and if someone tells you otherwise, ask what makes sense. If someone says you can’t get paid unless you hand them your dinar, say “One of us is a damned fool, and it’s not me!” Enjoy the rest of your day… Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!