terryk:
Morning all

kenbbq1:
morning Terryk

mac:
Good morning get team family!

terryk:
hey mac
terryk:
ken
terryk:
colorado

mac:
TK

terryk:
beach
terryk:
mike
.MikeH:
Terryk mac good morning

mac:
Colorado can you believe frost on the windshield and knee deep snow in the mountains!!!
mac:
BEACH!!!!!!!!!
mac:
mike
mac:
ken
mac:
it’s like the mouseketeers

Colorado:
We did not get frost in springs

terryk:
its 102 in the hot tub…

mac:
grrrrrrr
mac:
dislike cold.

.MikeH:
it is 81 in Destin FL come on down

terryk:
pool water 54

mac:
you guys are not my favorite right now. haha

Colorado:
Shower water — never mind

.MikeH:
the pool temp is 79.6 and they say it is too cold to go in

terryk:
tell them where your from mike

kenbbq1:
TerryK and Mac what do ya’ll know about ecosoc…..

terryk:
they will understand

.MikeH:
I did

kenbbq1:
TerryK it is just his Destin…..

mac:
what is ecosoc? Socks made from biodegrable material?

terryk:
yea what is it

kenbbq1:
Iraq was voted in yesterday

mac:
Socks with an echo?

terryk:
voted where

mac:
Voted what?

terryk:
I did see where budget will be approved this month
terryk:
and maybe today

mac:
Yes just voted tho.

kenbbq1:
to be voted in have to be global…..

terryk:
Wow
terryk:
so we wait to see HCL

kenbbq1:
won’t the HCL and RV come out together?

terryk:
it can
terryk:
but like to see discussions indicating that

mac:
ken, be careful, I read that as only exposing Iraq to the International forum not them being req’d to be international

Tommy864:
Good Morning Everyone From NYC God Bless America

mac:
It’s only a council within the UN.

terryk:
hey tommy

mac:
I saw it this AM too long to read and make here on time I will go back and read it in its entirety.

terryk:
so what’s up with zim

mac:
IDK 3 articles alone this morning

kenbbq1:
Here is the link

Colorado:
It’s a currency from Zimbabwa. you can get it on line

kenbbq1:
http://www.investopedia.com/…xzz3pMOi6roI

terryk:
To funny

Colorado:
that’s all I got – I’ll be quiet now

mac:
Colorado, your to funny

kenbbq1:
Godskid: my questions: any rumors on what zim notes will not be considered for exchange? Are the rumors still the same on the currencies being driven up quickly by the markets and then settling down to around the orginal rate where it started?

terryk:
I heard months ago they were going to make a calling on the notes then wait for a period then try if allowed to do something with them
terryk:
now I see today there is a discussion and maybe some funding

kenbbq1:
what is a calling?

terryk:
calling them in
kenbbq1:
ok thanks
mac:
ok ill go…. On the ZIM, haven’t followed closely enough to comment. The currencies driven up is only one of several possibilities. I wait for the RV to see. Until then, idk
terryk:
well said mac
mac:
thanks.
kenbbq1:
I think Mac is in politics…..
mac:
As long as I can get a Dr. Rom Paul haircut
Tommy864:
any news on the Rial currency
terryk:
not a thing tommy, I really don’t follow Iran, however I let a person start posting info about that country in here a few days ago
mac:
Still not a released currency. This one will still need more info.
mac:
And time to brew.
mac:
speaking of brew….
terryk:
only because I feel that it may have indicators on Iraq
kenbbq1:
TerryK do you think Iraq and Iran will go together?
terryk:
yes
terryk:
I do
kenbbq1:
Still no word from Laggard on the new reserve currency?
terryk:
none
kenbbq1:
I wonder if they are waiting for this to pop! That would mean even Laggard doesn’t know….
terryk:
that means no one knows
terryk:
and that is why it has not happened yet
terryk:
everyone thinking someone else has to turn iton
terryk:
it on
mac:
ok back. REFILLS! The second best cup of the day!
kenbbq1:
So all the players call each other every morning going is it today…..
terryk:
no I think they sit in a circle
terryk:
and do the circle thing
terryk:
spin the bottle
terryk:
or jerk
kenbbq1:
duck duck goose
mac:
The problem is the person who was supposed to bring the button left it in his other coat.
terryk:
no I think they forget to bring the bottle
Colorado:
maybe they are playing pass the bottle, not spin
mac:
TK what did you think about the letter to abadi from one of the MPS?
terryk:
more like pass the buck
kenbbq1:
bottle or the middle east pipe
terryk:
what letter Mac
mac:
Naw hookah
terryk:
did not see it
kenbbq1:
and what is in the pipe…..
terryk:
camel poo
mac:
Mike the letter from MP regarding funding the tribes and volunteers. Getting paid equal to combat soldier even though they are volunteers
terryk:
how are they going to pay them
terryk:
they can’t even pay gov peeps
mac:
The letter was published in the paper. Would have never happened w/ M. He is also asking for weapons and munitions as agreed.
terryk:
that tells me they are primed
kenbbq1:
I saw where they are spending 5 billion a month out of reserves to run the country….I don’t think they can on just 5 billion…..too much going on…..
mac:
There is ALOT of pressure on Iraq and it ALL revolves around money
mac:
There are enough reserves to keep them afloat for 6 months max according to saleh. I believe
kenbbq1:
yep, that is what I saw….then the IMF was going to keep them afloat with loans?
mac:
And the IMF said earlier they would not loan anymore money to Iraq.
terryk:
Big time
mac:
What gives
kenbbq1:
too much double speak I cannot keep up….
kenbbq1:
one day loans next day no loans…..who knows
kenbbq1:
I just know this Iraq will not go down the tubes….too much invested by the world….
mac:
So 8 days left in the month, Parl doesn’t meet till tues the 27th if the first vote is then, four day wait the 31st, passed on the first of nov ., implement on 2 nov?
mac:
This is regarding the investment law.
kenbbq1:
Abadi can do an EO…..
mac:
AN EO to pas investment Law or EO for vote?
kenbbq1:
He can bypass parliament if he deems it an emergency
terryk:
Abadi said last week he would do EO if not passed
terryk:
think I read that
mac:
ok, I can see that.
jannilew:
forgive me. what’s an EO?
mac:
Executive Order
kenbbq1:
so we really don’t have to see any laws passed he could do it on the fly….
jannilew:
ahhhhh.. thanks!
terryk:
yep
mac:
There are going to be a ton of people with their hand out if that happens
terryk:
there is a ton now with hands out
jannilew:
so, you’re starting to feel it’s going to be more like a week or so out from now(?)
mac:
true
mac:
not a feeling Jann just looking at what the constitutional timelines are.
terryk:
who knows Jann all we have is articles to go by, peeps talking any time
terryk:
and hearing anything from 3.41 – 4.20
terryk:
everyone is guessing
terryk:
honest I don’t care just as long as they turn it on
kenbbq1:
meeeee toooooo
mac:
Jann your getting anxious again. We examine the possibilities and determine which makes sense. No guarantees. Faith remember.
jannilew:
amen
mac:
The only two places God can use is HERE and NOW
mac:
use us is…
terryk:
ok all time to run….God Bless have a great weekend. Go RV
terryk:
see u Monday or sooner
jannilew:
thank you, you too
mac:
TK ttyl
mac:
jann hang on, He will get us there!
jannilew:
mac:
Love each other, got to go get my axle done! Yay one fixed car 6 more to go. hahaha.  guys.

Millionday: APPLY THE INSTRUCTIONS>>>> Alnasiri urged to apply and identify and instructions implementation mechanisms of the amounts allocated by the Central Bank of Iraq, amounting trillion dinars to finance small and medium enterprises and five trillion dinars to finance specialized banks (agricultural, industrial and real estate housing fund), indicating the importance of establishing the foundations of a clear guarantee the transparency of the data and those that have been lending by government banks and civil. 

JETSET : well, when you combine the news component with the other information that we are hearing, it is getting exciting again!!!

Millionday: THEY ARE ACTIVATING THE NATIONAL REFINERY COMPANY TOO — HUGE AND I THOUGHT SO — LOVE IT 

ONE OTHER SOLUTION IS TO LAUNCH THE DINAR SO THAT THE TREASURY CAN USE THE MONEY TO PAY BILLS WITH IT.   DOC    IMO

Thunderhawk:   Good Evening Everyone     HUGE QUESTION DOC?
Does this move by the HSBC might have anything to do with the euro?

MMMM I WONDER

US emerges as potential headquarters for HSBC

The US is emerging as a serious alternative to Hong Kong as the possible headquarters for HSBC, as Europe’s biggest bank by assets considers shifting its base out of the UK.

HSBC fired a warning shot to British politicians in April by announcing a review of whether to leave the UK two weeks before the general election. Shareholders welcomed the review, which was driven by concern about excessive tax and regulation.

The UK political climate has shifted in favour of the City of London since the election, with HSBC winning a notable concession on the bank levy, a sector-specific tax introduced by the UK government after the financial crisis.

But one lawyer who met executives from the bank recently said they felt the attitude of the Treasury and regulators was still hostile.

Hong Kong has long been considered the most likely destination for HSBC if it did decide to move, as the bank was based there for more than 100 years. It still earns most of its profit in Asia.

However, growing concerns about the political risk of the bank ending up under Chinese control have prompted a rethink, according to people familiar with the matter.

Advisers to HSBC say the US is one of the few countries with an economy big enough to be able to comfortably welcome a bank of its size. HSBC has $2.6tn of assets, making it almost as big as the entire British economy. Bankers also view US financial regulation as more accommodating of large universal banks.

Douglas Flint, chairman of HSBC, told the Financial Times the bank was “about halfway through the process” of considering moving its domicile and had “prepared the ground by giving presentations to the board on the various aspects, like the regulatory and economic framework, but we have not had any discussion of the relative merits”.

One top 10 shareholder in HSBC said: “I would say Hong Kong would be the best location as that is where HSBC have their history, but there is political risk in Hong Kong. The US has to be a serious option. You have a more friendly regulator in the way they look at bank capital and they have the balance sheet to take on HSBC. I think the US would love to have a bank like HSBC.”

Another top 10 shareholder in HSBC said: “I think longer term Hong Kong must be the favoured location, if the bank is going to move. But the US is definitely an option too, but I would have said it was the second option.”

Advisers to HSBC said the Chinese government’s interventionist reaction to volatility in its stock market this summer raised doubts about Hong Kong as a destination.

Yet Mr Flint denied this. “As every country reacts to unforeseen circumstances, they learn from what works and what doesn’t. But that doesn’t have a bearing at all on our decision,” he said.

The advisers also said the bank’s 20-strong board was worried about whether a possible move to Hong Kong would upset UK and US regulators, with potentially negative consequences for the bank.

Mr Flint said: “It is not rocket science that the views of regulators would be a subject we would think about. We would have to take that into account.”

The advisers said HSBC was concerned about the potential impact on its deferred prosecution agreement with the US Department of Justice, which it signed to avoid criminal charges over money laundering and sanctions violations in 2012.

One person familiar with the DoJ’s thinking said it would not be happy about HSBC moving its headquarters to Hong Kong. Such a move could also put the bank’s highly prized US dollar clearing licence in the balance, one adviser said.

However, several state-controlled Chinese banks already have US dollar clearing operations, including Bank of China, China Merchants Bank and China Construction Bank. Earlier this year, US regulators ordered China Construction Bank to overhaul its anti-money laundering programmes, including improving customer due diligence on dollar clearing activities.

HSBC plans to update investors early next month on its discussions and aims to decide by the end of the year with a vote by the full board, though Mr Flint said this may slip into 2016.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/23/hsbc-may-shift-uk-headquarters-to-us.html

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BACKDOC:   WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THUNDER A QUESTION? YESTERDAY WE SAW CALLS BY CHINA CALLING FOR A GLOBAL CURRENCY RIGHT? RIGHT!

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT CURRENCY IS? RIGHT! THE SDR! WHICH WILL BE LARGELY BACKED BY THE TRN PERCENTAGE WISE.

THE U.S. WILL BECOME A POWER CENTER FOR THE GLOBAL AGENDA!

NO DOUBT BANKS WILL WANT TO BE DOMICILED IN THE STRONGEST RESERVE CURRENCY IN THE WORLD!

WE HAVE HIGH SUSPICIONS THAT THE EURO MAY NOT EVEN SURVIVE SINCE THERE ARE NO ASSETS THAT BACK IT. IT IS BASED ON A TREATY AND ISN’T A GOVERNMENT.

MAYBE HSBC KNOWS THIS AND IS PREPARING TO GET OUT BEFORE THE EURO COLLAPSES!

I ALSO HEARD RUMORS THAT IT IS LOOKING TO DIVIDE INTO TWO COMPANIES, ONE SIMPLE BANKING AND THE OTHER TRADING. THIS MAY PROTECT THE BASIC CORE OF THEIR BANKING! MMMMM

WE HAVE TO WATCH.    DOC       IMO
GOOD NIGHT FAMILY!!

ALWAYS FUN TO WORK WITH YOU THUNDER!!

Mangelo:  Bruce call: talking about the price of oil $40 to $55 a barrel
PinkRoses:  Bruce call: caller: I was on another intel call tonite. I am also in a group and have my own currency. I heard the paperwork was submitted…. caller: this sounds like this is our last regular call. Bruce: I thought we would have a celebration call tonite. We do calls Tues and Thurs nite. By next Tues we should be celebrating.

Does anyone have any insight into how the issue of the NDA would be handled if an individual with Power of Attorney were to attempt an exchange for someone residing out of the country?  I.e., would the individual residing out of country be required to sign the NDA, and, if so, how might this possibly be satisfied if they were not present during the exchange? Any input would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

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Tndr

Posts: 1403
Date: 08:39 AM Oct 22, 2015

This is a guess. It may be that the out of country portion of your scenario may be the biggest issue and may prevent an exchange on a contract rate (reason why NDA is in play). It may be that a POA cannot be part of an exchange with an NDA involved at all? You have an interesting scenario and wish I could help. Resourcing an attorney for proper answers and advice is your best recourse.

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ATLAST-51

Date: 08:42 AM Oct 22, 2015

When you give someone a Power of Attorney, it’s as thought they are standing there signing themselves. If you sign the NDA on their behalf they are restricted to the terms as though they were standing there signing it themselves. This is the reason you need to be VERY careful who you give a Power of Attorney to.