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Cosmic Disclosure: The Gonzales Enigma
Season 2, Episode 3
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DW: Welcome to the world of the shocking, the bizarre, and the seemingly unbelievable Cosmic Disclosure. I’m your host, David Wilcock. We’re interviewing Corey Goode, the insider’s insider, a man who has as much knowledge crammed into his brain as all the other insiders I’ve met put together. Truly a fascinating conversation that we’re having. Corey, welcome to the show.
CG: Thank you.
DW: We were talking about Lieutenant Colonel Gonzales, who is a mysterious figure that has aroused a great deal of curiosity on the internet. Some people are saying that he’s about to come forward. Is that true?
CG: No, there’s no plan for him to be coming forward any time.
DW: OK. People on the internet are thinking, well, we just want to see another guy who knows what Corey knows. Why is it a bad idea for Gonzales to come forward?
CG: He is– he has a cover life here on Earth. He isn’t down here very often. If he was to expose himself at this point, it would be very dangerous for him and the operation. He doesn’t have any children or family, and some would think that it would be, I guess, safer for him to come forward than me with having a family and children. And I agree to a certain point.
DW: So the Blue Avians obviously have been assisting Solar Warden trying to break out cosmic disclosure for humanity. What’s the history of that? What’s the history of them contacting you? Because I certainly remember that very amazing day, February 27, 2015, when you told me in a Skype text that the Blue Avians had asked for you by name from the space program alliance. So what’s the history here?
CG: As you remember, I was telling you that I was in contact with a being that I wouldn’t go into details about, I wouldn’t even describe to you.
DW: And I respected you for that, but it was also something that made me extremely curious, that with all of the really outrageous stuff you were telling me, why is he holding back on this? About all I knew was that they were blue, and that was it. I think that’s about the only thing you ever said, and that it had something to do with your family and your kids.
CG: Right. And that much I still can’t talk about.
DW: Right.
CG: But this–
DW: When did this contact happen with you?
CG: It goes back four years.
DW: OK. So four years before 2015 would be 2011, thereabouts. OK.
CG: And it turns out that Lieutenant Colonel Gonzales has been in contact with them for about the exact same timeframe.
DW: So around 2011 as well?
CG: Mm-hmm. And he had been in a liaison role between the Blue Avians and the Solar Warden– well, the SSPbreakaway faction that included Solar Warden. It’s not just Solar Warden.
DW: It’s not just Solar Warden.
CG: Right. A lot of people have been putting out that it was just Solar Warden. It’s kind of a conglomerate of defectors from the different space programs.
DW: Right.
CG: And he had been presenting information from the Blue Avians for some time, and then all of a sudden out of the blue, they give him my name and information, and he comes to the SSP council, alliance council, and says, the Blue Avians have chosen this guy to be their delegate. And they were not happy at all about it. They wanted Gonzales to be the delegate.
DW: Without getting into any incriminating detail, what would this cover life be like? Does he have a house? Does he have a car?
CG: Yes. Lives in a house in a rural area.
DW: So people he would tell if he meets somebody that he has a particular job, and there’s a whole cover story worked out where that job does exist and he could go there?
CG: Yes.
DW: Right.
CG: I’m very reticent to say anything more.
DW: Oh, no. Absolutely. There’s just been this current on the internet of people thinking he’s about to join us on a radio show or something, and we needed to specify that that’s not about to happen. So you’re saying the Avians contacted you and him in 2011. Was this before the new influx of 100 or so visible spheres of the size of the moon Neptune and Jupiter? Was it around the same time? Was it a little bit before?
CG: This was– it was occurring before, and it was during the influx.
DW: OK. So it kind of seems as if there’s a major push being made and that one of the initiatives was to move the spheres in, and another initiative was to grab these delegates starting with Gonzales, and then once you were apparently ready for this job, that then you were also invited in.
CG: Right. I was being prepared, but I had no idea I was being prepared or what I was being prepared for. I was still coming to terms with a lot of my past of what I had been involved in, and when I had gotten to the point where I had come to terms with it, I was dealing with the Blue Avians with some of that information.
DW: So when this contact first happened in your case in 2011, did you actually see them like the Android Jones illustration that we have? Were you seeing these beings, or was it like a blue sphere? What were you actually experiencing?
CG: They first introduced themselves to people in dreams, in a very lucid dream. And then they appear to you physically after they have prepared you through dreams.
DW: Which is exactly what they say in “Law of One” is the same contact protocol.
CG: Oh.
DW: Yeah. Now they say in “The Law of One” that they discontinued most physical contacts because the people that were getting them would get a big ego and would be worshiped by others as some sort of messianic figure. And one of the things about your story that has really fascinated me is that that prime directive sort of free will clamp-down on in-person contacts seems to have been lifted because of the need of the moment, because we need to get jump started into this golden age, and we need some help getting there.
CG: And after every meeting, I’m heavily warned about ego– my own ego and this information becoming cultish or religion which it’s not supposed to be by any means.
DW: Let’s go back to that moment again, and tell us, what did it start with? You said it started with dreams. At what point were you aware that you were in contact with what you’re now calling Blue Avians?
CG: I was very aware in the dreams, but it wasn’t–
DW: Did they look the same as the illustration in these dreams?
CG: Pretty much. The illustration that is out is not perfect yet, but yes. That’s the way they appeared in the dreams–
DW: In the dreams.
CG: –and in person when they finally did appear.
DW: Dreams, a lot of times, will have very odd metaphorical symbolic impossible things going on. You’ll look over here, and then you look away, and then it’s changing. So did these dreams seem to have that type of symbolic nature, or was it more like a lucid contact?
CG: It was very lucid, very real, very tangible. It was different than any type of dream that I had had before.
DW: So we’re getting lots and lots of people on the internet who are trying to say that they’ve jumped right into this story line with you, that they’re having the same contact that you’re having, and they’re trying to portray themselves as authority figures and act as if their information should be considered equally. What is the way in which most people are being contacted? Because it seems like a lot of these are fraudulent. They don’t really line up with what you’re hearing. What is the way that most people are being contacted? What is a type of experience that might occur?
CG: Most people are being contacted having experiences with the blue orbs, which is– the blue orbs are actually the highest density of the sphere being alliance. So I mean, they’re higher density than the Blue Avians, but everyone seems to have locked on to– I guess the Blue Avian, there’s something romantic about it. People have locked onto it. But most people are having experiences with the blue spheres.
DW: What would that involve? What’s actually happening?
CG: Usually a blue sphere or spheres appear to people and zip around or stop in front of them and pulse, and people receive either a message they remember consciously, or they just think they just saw a very cool thing and don’t understand that they received a message subconsciously, or their higher self received a message. And they’re receiving a message from these higher density beings for future reasons.
DW: Well, this is really mind-blowing, and we’ve talked about this privately, but I want to get this on camera. It is going to involve a little bit of self-disclosure and a little monologue from me, but it’s very important. I had read “The Law of One” and the “Seth” books. Both Carla Rueckert and Jane Roberts, the channels of two of the best channels in modern times in my opinion– both had these blue orb visitations very clearly delineated in the books. I was so aware of it that I was frustrated and said, why haven’t they done that with me? Because one thing it says in “The Law of One” is that they will try to get to you telepathically. They don’t want to have to do an in-person contact if they can avoid it. If they can get you involved like they did with me telepathically, that’s better. So one day I’m in North Carolina visiting a friend. I’m meditating in a field. I see a UFO– first time I’d ever seen one. It goes behind a cloud. The cloud goes away. It’s gone. But because I’m meditating, I’m just like, OK. Well, now I’ve seen a UFO. Big deal. The only other thing I want– and I said this is like a prayer– the only other thing that I wish would happen that hasn’t happened is I want an orb of light to appear in my room and give me an intelligent message just like what happened to Carla and what happened to Jane Roberts. Then I called my father a couple days later, and it turns out that my brother was on the other line at the same time. And he patches us both in together. I said, Dad, you realize this is synchronicity, right? He’s like, oh, oh. Then my brother says, after I talk about my UFO sighting, said, well, that’s funny. Something weird happened to me too. I said, what’s that? He said, this orb of light appeared in my room and gave me an intelligent message. And in his case, he was meditating, and his head actually dropped back, and then he saw this orb appear near the ceiling, and it spread out to about four or five feet wide, and it was like a vortex tunnel. It was an actual stargate in his ceiling pulsing, and we have a whole article on my website from 2001 called “David’s Brother Receives In-Person ET Contact.” And it gave him a message, and it said, the ascension that your brother is writing about will not happen all at once. It will be a series of increasingly uplifting inspirational experiences. You have had the first of these experiences, which was mind-blowing. So how do you think– how did that strike you when I told you that my brother had this experience back in 2001 that was already in print on my website?
CG: I had no idea, but there are many, many tens and now hundreds of thousands of people that are having these experiences right now.
DW: Has Gonzales had this type of thing too? Is that part of how it worked for him?
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