http://dinaresgurus.blogspot.ca/
ZAP / POOF REPORT, 17 DEC
IF IT WAS THE EXPECTED PERSONAL ATTACK I WOULD UNDERSTAND AND I AM PREPARED FOR THESE, BUT TAKING AWAY FROM INNOCENTS IS A BIT TOO MUCH TO BEAR –
KTFA CC NOTES, 17 DEC
KTFA:
Aggiedad77: Hello Family here are the notes from the Wednesday Night CC……I would like to offer a great deal of gratitude to our Family member denaridori for such great help with the notes…that is appreciated…..please enjoy. Aloha Randy
*** The comments made by Frank26, Delta and others are their sole OPINIONS and cannot and should not be used as any form of financial, tax, banking or investment advice! We offer NO DATE, NO RATE on this forum!!! ***
CC Notes for Wednesday 12-16-2015
Frank26: When we were together with you a week ago last Monday…..we said why do we have to talk to you about the monetary reform. We said we’d talk to you if we see the lower denom’s and we told you we have suspicion more than likely between the 15th and the end of the year we might see those LD’s.
Well, I’m here to tell you that on this Monday, you need to read those notes
12-7-15 LINK
12-14-15 LINK
What happened this past Monday, again we said, we really shouldn’t be talking…..we already told you what’s happening based on what Dr. S said….sometime in mid-December he was going to try a float and introduce the LD’s.
Well, when we were with you on Monday – we told you something else….there at the US Embassy, but they have to be delivered to the banks by us….but first there’s going to be an auction that’s going to swing to the left and right – in volume. I’ll tell you the other caveat we left you with was if we see the LD’s, we’re going to tell you….you’re going to see them.
Then the other thing you were to pay attention to on Wednesday – today – they would pass the budget. So, here we are cutting our Business CC a little shorter so we could talk to each other…..Everything is on course, not what we’ve told you but what Dr.S has told us…..they’re going to start a float.
Now, if you understand that he only gave you the basic elements…to start a float that means you have to get the program rate, walk out of the IMF, and be internationally recognized so you can start the float. LOL All of this requires some LAWS but we told you you’re not going to see this…and on the 31st, we told you, you should pay attention to 3 things on the 31st.
That budget is going to be released to their government…it’s going to be approved….it was already passed, but it’s going to be approved this coming Wednesday…and then right after the 31st when that clock rings, it’s going to be activated!! So there it is!! Just because he didn’t break it down the way we did doesn’t mean it’s not exactly as it is.
So, continue to pay attention to the auction….which we’ll talk about tonight.
Delta’s going to talk a little bit more about that budget.
The only thing that I have great interest in is what we’ve told you before. What’s in the budget….the reason other sites don’t talk to you about it is because they don’t know it….well they know it because they copy and paste it to their sites …we told you this over 2-3 months ago.
So what’s in the budget for 2016 for Iraq? — (Reading chats) – No, the rate isn’t in the budget – it’s going to be presented…No, it’s not the laws, it’s the laws that allows you to have a budget. Yes…it’s the HCL.
The Hydro Carbon Law – there’s 4 parts – and 3 of them have been used…we’ve talked about it so much…..it’s for selling oil inside and outside of Iraq. What’s the part missing? We have to turn this triton into a pitchfork that has 4 strong streams of revenue…the one missing is the one that belongs to citizens….what royalty will they get.
Family, they passed that budget today and it has the HCL inside it…and yes it has with a rider as a caveat to use it at anytime but they didn’t, did they? They’;re going to pull it the first of the next year I hope… the HCL – the 4th part of the HCL. You need a rate for that and that’s why it’s never been there before…never!
Have they told you the HCL is in the budget? My teams have told you….have they told you? To a degree they have. They call it the oil and gas law. They don’t have to tell you everything – it’s none of your business. Do you understand the proceedings of what’s going on now…What else will you see between the 31st – 1st probably around the 31 st or 1st – that trifacta:
1 – This budget
2 – The rate – it might be a 1:1 if it goes into an RV
3 – Tax and Tariffs – extremely important for that budget. You can’t avoid them with the budget – it’s to fuel the budget
What else did we tell you would happens between the 15-16-17th – Okay – the 15th we thought we’d see the tax & tariffs and then we said no you’re not going to see it until the end of the month – but WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO SEE ON THE 16TH? — We told you and we used keywords….before I tell you think about it.
I want you to count the number of times you see in your notes for all of 2015 the following words – keywords to you – THE KURDS ARE VERY HAPPY, FAMILY. (Yeah, he did …constantly LOL a—and that’s why you see we’re very happy today. We told you they were so happy for the budget to come out – we told you they’ve been quiet.
Well, you see why today – they got 17% like it was promised to them. What’s interesting is the government put out a lot of information today about the budget….one said we need to learn the important details in the budget of 2016…and when I read that when Walkingstick brought it to us – I said wow….how bold is that…because you don’t tell us anything that’s in there… the HCL is in there! LOL
Later on in that same long report it said….We expect the activation of the custom tariffs….Good grief!! Why…….because it’s the fuel of the budget. When do you think? Around the 31st – 1st.
Meanwhile, the former governor of the CBI who is now the economic advisor to Abadi and the GOI – Mohammed Ali Saleh…..he said IRAQ HAS TAKEN ALL ……I’m going to stop right there because Iraq has taken what….all the security?….all the cookies? All the steps? When you say ALL, that’s quite an accomplishment…quite a footprint.
So, this guy says how ya doing Shabibi…yeah, I’m good and I’m going to advise Abadi and the whole GOI. LOL What’s you got to say? IRAQ HAS TAKEN ALL PRECAUTIONS TO FACE THE DANGERS OF THE ECONOMISES OF 2016. – I agree!
And it started with security – then they gave us laws, didn’t you …in fact Aggiedad made you an amazing list on the last page of yesterday’s thread that’s an outline from the Monday night call.
Dr. Saleh you’re telling Iraq…You mean the CBI?….let’s say the two combined together.
You mean you won’t have any inflation? Oh nooooo.
You mean you’ll have new currency of LD’s – smaller ones?
You mean you’re going to have an international rate? Yeahh….
You mean you’re going to qualify for Article 8 from the USA? Yeahh….
Is that why the IMF turns to the US government and says to them…it’s your turn? — Yes, yes, yes.
By the way – I know this is for Delta….I just have to do this one time…! 81 TRILLION??? 81 TRILLION?? They don’t have that many dinars…at 1166 or excuse me 1182!! – in whose dreams and 17% is going to the Kurds. –Dream Kurds, dream!!
What?? WE’RE HAPPY – SHUT UP!!! — Okay – I tried to stop the itch but you guys approved the budget, man!! Don’t you understand that’s like Cap count….3-2-1 ignition.
IMO the 2016 budget is ignition for all they have prepared themselves for their economies.
Iraq…what’s in your house? Excuse me? What’s in your house? I suppose the same that’s in your Congress’ house. A BUDGET!! Yeah…LOL
Hey, USA…do you have a budget in dinars or USD’s? Hello…no comment? Okay!! LOL
I want this to end sooo bad….(apologize to those listening on the phone – lost the recording and don’t know when the phone went dead, my deepest apologies.)
YES, BOTH OF OUR HOUSES NOW HAVE BUDGETS….AND ON TOP OF THAT, IT’S HISTORICAL – IT’S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE AND ON TOP OF THAT, THAT BOTH OF OUR CURRENCIES ARE IN THE SAME BASKET….
So, tell me US Congress…You passed your budget…YES, Did you pass it with dinars or USD’s….No comment.
Tell me — Iraq, did you pass your budget? Yes. Did you pass it with USD’s or IQD’s? — IQD’S. Next question!
You know something…that is deep what I just gave you. It’s so deep it’s bottomless but I’ll never have the ability in my lifetime to explain this….never. Well, unless we walk privately on a beach somewhere.
CNN says that today they announced there’s definitely life on Mars …..and today the budget for both sides were established. And I’ll tell you one more time….Shabibi……will be there at the end.
So our TEAMS from Monday – we don’t get online and talk to each other by the way, but our intel is pretty much in line with what we’re seeing and what we’re teaching, wouldn’t you say?
Okay – Now I’m going to go into it a little bit deeper. …THE IMF COMPLETED……now, once again, pay attention to these words. These are not even translated…..THE IMF IN COMPLETED AN AGREEMENT to CONTROL IRAQ’S ECONOMY. Do you understand what that means? — Their currency, the value of their currency, inflation, their jobs…well, I’ll be darn! Everything’s about to explode.
What does it say? The IMF COMPLETED AN AGREEMENT – you mean a contract??
Yeah…Ta Da! – TO CONTROL IRAQ’S ECONOMY.
What they did family, they made it so their economy can EXPLODE..…not going to implode…and this is the contract we told you about that is finished…and that’s why whether you can see it or not see it, this is our business or none of our business – your gift to us is to pay attention to those options.
Now, in the last two days, the auctions have been averaging 3 million, but today they went up a little bit more…I told you that IMO any where between 3 – 10 was a low option and you saw 3 for 3 days and today you saw a lot of banks reporting asking for 6 million. Do you think those banks will ask for that tomorrow.
You see, we’re looking for the pendulum to go far left or to the far right so we don’t’ know what they’re doing….or they just do it all at once. There is also a third scenario…the one that you’re seeing. In Spanish we say…un pequito a la vez …? – In Hawaiian they’d say…I’ll see you in 5 Hawaiian minutes. …that usually means 30-45 minutes. Let’s put it this way – IMO, those LD’s are moving.
A council rep of the Presidency of Iraq said: WE MANAGED THE APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET IN RECORD TIME AND IN A SPIRIT OF COOPERATION….Why do I say this? That spirit of cooperation is a high form of security – and RECORD TIME? IMO they’re about 3 weeks ahead of our study and they’re constantly rubbing it in.
What did we tell you to look for on the 16th – Well, you said to look for the tax and tariffs on the 15th but changed it and said to look for the LD’s…and yeah, I think so, with that kind of a budget and auction we just talked about….then on the 16th —something else – use keywords:
Look for…..to go for a RATE HIKE…wouldn’t it be interesting to get a rate hike there and with the dinar simultaneously on the 16? What did we say would happen on the 16t? – Post it (chatroom) – Looks like you don’t know – it’s in your notes….
No – do not use the USD on Dec. 31st – What did we say between the 15th-16th – 17th? A rate change, but be more specific. We were…right on the money.
Whoa……Sharon B. …….Congratulations! ANOTHER FEATHER IN THE CAP FRANK 26,
ON Dec. 16th at 2pm EST, the FED RAISED THE INTEREST RATE BY 25%. WELL DONE!!!! You told me that on our phone conversation back on Dec. 5th while we were shopping at Walmart ….HA HA HA!!! (Frank shows his phone.) Yeah…..Yeah.
My opinion…both sides raised the rate today…..Thank God it’s just my opinion and we told you this a long time ago…and on this day, we also tell the IMF – sure, go ahead and give us a government overhaul. It’s our turn now.
– I’m done….I hope we hit the points hard.
DELTA is not going to talk that long – but he wants to tell you from his point of view about the budget, how it went through, the excitement, the unity, what’s in it…and to tell you the potential of what it could mean because it has to carry a new rate.
Tell the family about an 81 TRILLION BUDGET PASSED TODAY IN GREAT SPIRIT AND EXCITEMENT.
DELTA: Yes, it’s very good news…unbelievable…like they have said…expect the unexpected. The government of Iraq has a budget and before the end of the year, it’s a time…it’s amazing…the 81 trillion …it’s very significant for them to pass the budget.
A couple of days Maliki’s coalition was trying to stop the Kurds from getting 17% but thank God it wasn’t stopped…that could have been a problem and have more and more delays…but thank God everything’s working amazing towards our investment. And we all know the budget is very important.
So, what’s going to happen, some of you may know….Let me explain…..after the budget is passed in the Parliament…..it will go to the President and he has up to 15 days to ratify it and sign it……then send it to the Gazette, but this budget is going to be effective JAN 1, 2016…..this is really significant!
I was really so happy…..and my friend in Iraq, the media…..all of them are so happy. For the first time the Parliament passed the budget way ahead of time.
A lot of good stuff happened…..the budget passed for the first time – and the feds raising the interest ¼ %…..the reason they didn’t raise it because the US economy wasn’t strong??
But something big and huge is going to happen…..they don’t know about the IQD and are shocked as to what happened…..a lot of people don’t know that something big is coming soon which we all know is the IQD…and the most people hold dinars in the US…..as soon as people start talking about exchanging,…..it’s going to stimulate the economy buying houses, cars, employment…..and you’ll quit your job and other will fill your job…only those people holding dinar understand that.
Look at the action…..it doesn’t make any sense, but you, me and everyone who’s invested knows what’s going on. It’s amazing how when God opens everything….He’ll do it with a blink of the eye and it looks like everything really opening very nicely…..for those who waited so many years with so many frustrations…..and how many times Frank and my sister in Christ talked and met in Las Vegas…..and said when we met last time it was the best time ever and talked about this and wanted it to happen for a lot of people…..and finally, something is going to happen…..it’s not if it’s WHEN it WILL happen.
Also, the Congress is about to pass the IMF reforms….President Obama agreed on that but the Congress hasn’t agreed on it…..it was on hold, but something could happen behind closed doors…..and for them to accept China in the basket, remember, the US has the power of the IMF…..so for them to accept China in the SDR basket next year gives you the indication that everything works actually very nicely and with zeal. Everybody is going to benefit…..that’s why you see them working very smoothly.
I believe why the budget is important is because the CBI couldn’t move the rate dramatically to 1182 on Dec. 1st – when the Parliament works on the budget with an exchange rate otherwise they couldn’t move forward.
Other major thing that happened 3-4 days ago…the Anti-Money Laundering law was very important too because the CBI couldn’t move…..With that law they can basically work now.
I’m so excited for you, me, for everybody…..especially the KTFA family. We had to be very patient…like a lot of you – waiting so long…we stated on the CC so many times that this is not for everyone. We had said that if you cannot handle this investment, either sell your dinars or put it aside because it’s not for everyone…it takes patience.
FRANK: This 81 trillion…..that’s a large number. Do you remember what the number was for their budget was last year.
DELTA: I think it was 120 dollars or 30 trillion dinars.
Frank: I think they’re being more realistic…..they could come out 1:1.
DELTA: If you go to the IMF history – the previous record was 3.22 and if you add the inflation we should get very close to 3.60-3.70 – or $4.00. This is the natural rate for them. So, yeah, they can come up with 1:1…..and they have to come up higher…..even if they come up to more than 1 penny than the dollar, it’s going to be better.
The target goal for now is to come up more than 1:1.
Frank: I agree….Let’s say they do this on the 1st and they come out at 1:1 and they open the budget, got the tax and tariffs, got the codes, money coming in and everything’s good—it’s free floating. How long do you think it’ll take to go from 1:1 to 3:1?
DELTA: It could take 1 week to 1 month because they’re going to do a free float and you have a lot of investors and a lot of demand. Maybe the plan is 1 year for the numbers they’re looking for but I’m telling you as soon as this revalues, investors will be jumping on the dinar, but IMO I don’t think it would take more than a month. One week…..to a month, is my opinion.
Frank: Here’s what I’m thinking….I’m putting myself in the brain of Dr. Shabibi. Let’s see….I know there’s a lot of excitement for our country and a lot of anticipation and a longggg line of business and things that have been in place when they go international.
Because of that, if they free floated, it’s going to be fast…it’s going to climb fast. But if I manage it or control it myself, it’s going to go at a slow pace – what is it 2% or something like that. That’s ridiculous…! So, the fact that he’s putting it at a free float has such quick flexibility – a month is possible.
Someone asked if the broker is selling dinars when it goes to 1:1……Yes. Who’s going to buy it…….Not you! But when it shows the first signs of an RV and actually shows life and the proof of it I promise you the whales and sharks will move in and buy it. Why……because they can afford to do that.
The way you’re treating this investment and the way investors think of this is totally different. We went by blind faith…..rumors, histories of Kuwait…..this is not the way to invest in a currency. So, it’s telling me that this is going to be fast because if this was anything but a free float, jiminey crickets – you have to take 1 step forward and 2 steps backward…..it would take forever!
DELTA: What’s going to happen is that a lot will jump in – the IMF and CBI don’t even know how high it will go up…because this is what they’ve been waiting for. So many times we said as soon as this goes international, you’re not going to believe what happens. You’ll be surprised…..shocked…..scratching your head and even the people who knew about it are going to kick themselves…..they’re going to be so disappointed they didn’t join in.
To comment about your broker selling…like any other currency…..they sell the Chinese Yuan and other currencies…..and the IQD will be on the FOREX too…online…..the value goes to more than 2-3-4 trillion dollars…..once it becomes international, they’ll make good money.
Frankie, you made a good point about everybody knows that they’ll jump in because there’s a potential of making 100% or whatever…..and the stock market in Iraq…..the 2 articles that came out about the stock market coming out like London…..and planning to open to the world…..waiting for this to happen 6-7-8 months ago, but we all know what happened.
Frank: Timing…yes! It’s amazing!
I mentioned this on Monday’s CC ,…..the Finance Committee member, her name is Tamimi…..she actually put it up on our forum and said on Dec. 6th – last week – in a report put on our forum…..Yeah. the old rate was 3.30 – Actually she was wrong – it was 3.20 but I didn’t want to argue with her….She said, did you know WE NEVER ACTUALLY CANCELLED THAT RATE? THAT RATE IS JUST SITTING THERE WAITING FOR US TO PUT IT BACK UP ONCE WE’RE OUT OF THE SANCTIONS AND ARE INTERNATIONAL.
Holy Cow….IMO that free float tells me a lot…..it’s going to travel at the speed of light. And on top of that, deep in my heart, and I’m very adamant about this….they’re going to CAP it and that’s why this is free floating…..but they’ll CAP it when it gets to $3-4 dollars or whatever they want, but the fact that it’s free floating tells me that the CAP isn’t going to go deep into the year. Let’s see what happens.
Yes, I’m happy – I’m excited. I thank you, brother!Frank26: Hey, is this the FIRST TIME THEY’VE HAD A BUDGET RELEASED LIKE THIS?
DELTA: Yes, remember it was in Feb or March when Abadi was in after Maliki and it took him a year…remember when they didn’t pass the budget – they used the budget from the year before.
Frank: Yeah…….it looks like there’s too many “coincidences”…..and it’s adding up. NO! What’s happening with the US and Iraq who have been together for almost 12 years, we’ve been in bed with them…..in their kitchen…..everywhere in this country and you’re telling me it’s a coincidence that we pulled a budget when they pulled a budget? You’re telling me today when the Federal Reserve jacked up the interest rates…….and IMO we’re going to start to see the LD’s travel through the banks of Iraq through their auctions…it’s adding up to be something very solid.
And you’re telling me that our president is balancing our budget…..that hasn’t happened since Clinton did it…..you know, when we had our windfall from Kuwait. (when they RV’d)…..and paying part of our deficit…..that’s impossible with our economy. NONE of this makes sense!! This is a manipulation of a masterpiece.
I love you brother and thank you for coming tonight. I’ll talk to you tomorrow.
DELTA: I love ya brother…..and you family…..I’ll talk to you soon…..hopefully in Hawaii! LOL
Frank: Maliki tried…..and 18 of the Parliament members voted against this budget…..those 18 are supporters of Maliki…..those 18 have just marked themselves.
Also, I want to tell you…..we have a little small problem with Turkey…..it’s the ugly girl that goes to the prom and there are no other girls so every guy dances with her.
Turkey is not liked by the Middle East because they love our money – and they love our radars…especially our AWAC. So, Turkey is being bad again…the refugees finding solitude and comfort in Turkey…..they’re putting them back at the front to be sitting targets. Turkey is not helping with the removal of ISIS.
Because of that, we are powerful…..and whenever you go against us, I’m sorry there are consequences and usually they’re financial…so my opinion the planes we have which there are many – our air power supremacy…..we’re just going to take the airplanes back. Whaaaat? Yep…..there’s consequences.
Dismissed with a prayer.
DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 17 DEC
12-17-2015 Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3 WOW. THE AWESOME NEWS JUST KEEPS FLOWING. PRINTING IN GAZETTE SATURDAY. RATE CAN SHOW ANYTIME…IRAN SANCTIONS ALSO BEING LIFTED. TO MY KNOWLEDGE NOTHING ELSE LEFT…THE LIFTING OF THOSE SANCTIONS WAS A HANGING SPOT NOW HAVE INFORMATION THAT WAS CLEARED… NOW I CAN FIND ZIP STILL PENDING. SHABIBI STATED YEARS AGO AND HENRY KISSINGER SAID WHEN THEY FINISH THE LIST OF REQUIREMENTS THE RATE WILL SHOW. MYSELF AND OTHERS HAVE REVIEWED AND CAN FIND NOTHING TO PREVENT A NEW RATE FROM BEING ASSIGNED TO THE DINAR…WOW.
12-17-2015 Newshound Guru Millionday THE AMOUNT ATTENDING IS HUGE AND THE MEDIA WILL BE THERE AS WELL SO THIS WILL BE A TIMELINE THAT WE CAN EXPECT THE “CAT OUT OF THE BAG” CONCERNING ALL INFORMATION TO INVEST IN THE ISX SO IT WOULD BE INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED IMO AND ALSO BE INVESTABLE — [post 2 of 3…stay tuned]
12-17-2015 Newshound Guru Millionday Article quote: “Iraq Stock Exchange is seeking to open up to the world through the definition of the activities of the private sector traded companies with a view to increasing investment in the banking and industrial sectors and services” A HUGE ISX CONFERENCE WILL BE HELD IN LONDON…JAN 20TH TO 21ST. THIS IS FOR INVESTMENT SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS HUGE HUGE NEWS…THEY WILL BE PREPARED BY THE 20TH AND 21ST OF JANUARY TO PROMOTE THE INTERNATIONAL INVESTMENT IN THE ISX AND ALL THE COMPANIES LISTED INCLUSIVE OF THE DINAR AS WELL. [post 1 of 3….stay tuned]
12-17-2015 Intel Guru SteveI [The hcl from what I understood…was supposed to follow the budget maybe tomorrow…?] Yes it is within the same time frame. All very good. Another very positive note that my contacts told me, is that Iraq is deferring or delaying or postponed (whatever word you choose) the introduction of the 50K note until January 2016. This is great news because I think they will revalue the currency and scrap the 50K note. We are following this very closely. This is really positive to me because if you are going to revalue, then why introduce it and just confuse everyone and draw it back in. This is starting to get very exciting my friends.
12-17-2015 Newshound Guru Aggiedad77 The LAWS are done. The BUDGET is passed. We know what to look for at the CBI…We know the auctions need to stop. Long weekend coming up at the end of the month. Dr. Shabibi should be happy….HAPPY NEW YEAR Iraqi Citizens. Taxes and Tariffs….oh yes….where…at the borders…when….soon. How does Dr. Shabibi plan to celebrate the New Year? We could help him ring in a new rate. Just storming the brain some here
12-17-2015 Newshound Guru Millionday [CAN YOU TELL US IF THE BUDGET IS PASSED OR NOT?] THE BUDGET WAS PASSED…FINALLY. VERY GOOD NEWS AS IT HAS OPENED MANY DOORS AND MANY PLANS DUE TO AGREEMENT ON WHERE THE FUNDING GOES ETC — HUGE NEWS FOR IRAQ AND INVESTORS. THE HCL WILL BE VOTED THROUGH AT LEAST IS PLANNED TO BE THIS WEEK FOLLOWING THE BUDGET DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF THE BUDGET THAT ADDRESSES SO MUCH INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET — SO SHOULD BE RIGHT AWAY WITHIN DAYS IF NOTHING HALTS PLANS.
12-17-2015 Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3 NEWS CONFIRMED — IRAQ BUDGET PASSED…IT INCLUDES HCL…ALL CONFIRMED TO BE PUBLISHED SATURDAY. THE KURDS GOT THEIR 17%...EVERYONE HAPPY, THEN IRAN SANCTIONS TO BE LIFTED WITHIN DAYS PER USA CONGRESS…FROM ALL THE NEWS THERE TO MY KNOWLEDGE THERE IS NOTHING NOW PENDING TO PREVENT THE NEW RATE FROM APPEARING AT ANYTIME. HOWEVER I DO EXPECT FOR BANKING REASON THEY MAY WAIT TILL THE JAN 1 DATE…IF ANYTHING CHANGES I WILL GET BACK TO YOU IMMEDIATELY. I AM SUPER PUMPED.
TNT :CHATTER DEC 17 .. UPDATED..AGAIN! By OKROCKS, 17 DEC
-
okrocks said06:47 AM Dec 17, 2015
Iko Ward wrote Why is Forex polling at 11:30 in the morning?gilfonaire wrote IKO When does it usually poll?
Iko Ward wrote gil…7:15AM, 9:30AM, 5:37PM.
Iko Ward wrote How come oil is back to 34?
Iko Ward wrote Why did gold drop 30 this morning?
Iko Ward wrote Why was the S&P down 1.2%
Iko Ward wrote If we are going to manage our fortunes wisely, we need to learn how to read the signs for ourselves, not rely on others.
Iko Ward wrote In all sincerity, dear ones, it’s time to take off the training wheels.
yada wrote the value of gold dropping is due to the currency values increasing,,
Lillacgirl wrote IKO because somebody wants to make a killing in profits before it crashes
jumpinjackflash wrote Oil is back to 34 as a stabilizer…gold is down cause we are asset backed
Iko Ward wrote Remember that day? How good it felt to be free?
jumpinjackflash wrote IKO are you saying what I think you are saying?
Iko Ward wrote Fly! Be free! Shazbaat.
Lou wrote IKO dollar is up fed interest rates are up market goes with its evil twin oil TNT strong!
Iko Ward wrote Lou..last year I would have agreed. What about gold?
Lou wrote Dollar goes up gold goes down
Iko Ward wrote World RV’s, dollar goes splat!
Lou wrote IkO ….If the fear factor increases everyone will be leaving the dollar and then the gold will go up which is in the plan
Iko Ward wrote lou, I’m one of those who says we are going asset back once gold reaches less that 600.
apexdinar wrote we’re simply at 50% retracement from yesterday’s gains, predictable movement…it’ll be bumpy for a bit, we’ll see a Santa rally, then more bumps after New years’…and it’s exactly what the manipulators want you to think…it’s sleight of hand, fundamentals are gone, inversely correlated items no longer move and undulate the way they oughtta…
Iko Ward wrote apex…how are you feeling about tomorrows 670 Billion Puts
(NO ANSWER THAT I SAW, SORRY)
olesailor wrote IKO do you still think gold will hit 450?
Iko Ward wrote ole..at least 600, maybe down to 400 before parity
Lou wrote IkO ……. That should get you your gold price. I agree
olesailor wrote iko if you are waiting on the puts I would think that means that the PTB have to be crushed before the GCR. Does that make sense
Iko Ward wrote ole…that wont crush them, just sit up an notice. It will take years to crush.
jumpinjackflash wrote If the PTB is aware of what the Put options will create…and why wouldn’t they be…then it would be reasonable that the groups and Internet peeps would be getting 8oo’s tonight to brgin process tomorrow in order to begin to offset some of this financial turmoil that will be created in the market tomorrow.
Iko Ward wrote Jumpin…that would be smart, but who says they are smart?
Iko Ward wrote My favorite Farside cartoon….”Mr Osborn can I go home? My brain is full.”
Iko Ward wrote Just remember guys, no matter what happens, we are in a super-fantastic position. (we the currency holders)
Iko Ward wrote Well guys, got left with a honey dew list a mile long. Christmas at our house this year. bbl.
elmerf123456 wrote Federal Reserve’s decision to raise interest rates had little to do with the state of the economy, UBS’ Art Cashin said Thursday. “They painted themselves into a corner, and they had to do it,” Cashin told CNBC’s “Squawk on the Street.” “The reason they did it was not because of the economy but because they talked themselves into doing it.”
fitzgerald wrote THE BEST POSITION TO BE IN IS AT THE BANK EXCHANGING
flybaby777 wrote elmer…. I have appt today at 1:00 do you think i can exchange… i’m setting up accts for the exchange
dutcheflat wrote Yeah fly…take it in and like platinum said Ask Questions!! Good luck!
elmerf123456 wrote Fly baby I have no idea but you have been trained by the best you know what to do just promise to report back on how it goes we are family remember best of luck to you !
elmerf123456 wrote Those lucky enough to go on appointments now remember your part of TNT. We are like geese! geese flying V formation so those in front take the brunt of the wind and those in the back have an easier until they switch and take a lead position! So we fly in V formation Tnt family
ggee wrote I’ve got news guys. A good friend of mine called a few banks in Atlanta and for the first time was told to bring in her currency so they could check it with their system. one told her a book. One said they would exchange the dong but he could see a code on the screen and then gave her a number for a second bank which does like 9 currencies. I”ll get back with more info once I find out more.
TNT CHAT UPDATE, 17 DEC
************
.
I do not believe that the government of the USA, the UN, the IMF or any other agency or country or the leaders of said countries have given us more than a few seconds of thought if ever they thought of us at all or that we need this nor do they care whether we have a good Christmas, Black Friday or any other such ‘fal de ra’.
saintandrewstwinflame 
GOOD MORNING! I WILL NOT BE DOING THIS TOMORROW SINCE I HAVE TO GO TO COURT… AND I MAY OR MAY NOT BE BACK AT ALL DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF WHEN I HAVE TO LEAVE MY HOME, UNLESS OF COURSE ITS JUST HANDED TO ME, LOL … NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS I KNOW MY FUTURE IS BRIGHT AND SO IS YOURS! KNOW THAT I LOVE ALL OF YOU AND WISH YOU NOTHING BUT THE BEST, EVERYDAY IN EVERY WAY!
FUNNY HOW THINGS JUST SEEM TO JUST POP UP AGAIN AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS TO DEFLECT WHAT IS TRULY GOING ON… SIGH
Lagarde ‘to face trial’ over Tapie affair
French media are reporting that the managing director of the International Monetary Fund, Christine Lagarde, is to face trial over the Tapie financial scandal that had dogged France.
Bernard Tapie is a businessman who received €403 m in compensation from the French government, over the sale of Adidas in 1993.
Tapie, an ally of former president Nicholas Sarkozy, claimed to have been defrauded by the now-defunct Crédit Lyonnais bank over the affair. Sarkozy’s administration agreed the payment; Lagarde was finance minister at the time.
She has consistently denied any wrong-doing.
In August 2014 the IMF chief was played under investigation by magistrates, over charges of “simple negligence”.
IMF chief and former finance minister says decision to investigate her for alleged negligence is unfounded
The head of the International Monetary Fund, Christine Lagarde, has been charged with “simple negligence” over her handling of a controversial €400m payout to French business tycoon Bernard Tapie when she was finance minister.
Lagarde announced that she had been placed under investigation by a magistrate on Tuesday – the French equivalent of being charged in the UK – after being questioned for 15 hours at the court of justice in Paris, which deals with cases of alleged ministerial wrongdoing.
But she told a reporter that she would not resign from her position: “I’m going back to work in Washington this afternoon,” she said. The IMF chief insisted that she had not broken the law and would appeal.
Speaking to journalists in her lawyer’s office, Lagarde later said: “After three years of investigations, dozens of hours of questioning, the commission realised that I was not complicit in any violation and has therefore been reduced to allege that I may not have been sufficiently vigilant in the arbitration.”
Lagarde had earlier been questioned only as an “assisted witness”, and not as a suspect, in connection with the arbitration deal worked out in 2008 under which Tapie received the money at taxpayers’ expense to settle a commercial dispute with the state. Lagarde was the finance minister of then French president Nicolas Sarkozy at the time.
The investigation into Lagarde was opened in August 2011, on suspicion of possible complicity in the embezzlement of state funds. However the charges of negligence are far less serious…. Christine Lagarde’s lawyer has told Reuters that he will recommend she appeals the decision to try her over the Bernard Tapie affair.
http://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2015/dec/17/federal-reserve-interest-rate-hike-markets-business-live
THEY DONT COUNT THE ONES WHO HAVE ALREADY FALLEN OFF THE UNEMPLOYMENT SHEETS YEARS AGO, EVEN UP TO NOW…
The latest weekly US unemployment figures are out.
And they don’t suggest that the Fed made a catastrophic error by raising borrowing costs last night.
The number of Americans filing new claims for jobless benefit fell last week, to 271,00. That’s 11,000 fewer than last week (which was a five-month high).
The initial jobless claims figure has been below 300,000 every week since early March, suggesting the labour market has been strengthening.
Wall Street opens higher Ding ding!
Shares are inching higher on Wall Street as traders returned to their desks in New York after yesterday’s excitement.
The Dow has gained 45 points (+0.25%) in the first few minutes of trading.
43m ago 09:44 That didn’t last long… the Dow is now down 30 points.
Janet Yellen may not receive Christmas cards from many gold bugs this year.
The gold price has dropped by over 1% today to $1,058 per ounce, hit by the stronger dollar following the rise in US interest rates.
LAST NIGHT………..
poppy3 NEWS CONFIRMED — IRAQ BUDGET PASSED…IT INCLUDES HCL…ALL CONFIRMED TO BE PUBLISHED SATURDAY. THE KURDS GOT THEIR 17%…EVERYONE HAPPY, THEN IRAN SANCTIONS TO BE LIFTED WITHIN DAYS PER USA CONGRESS… FROM ALL THE NEWS THERE TO MY KNOWLEDGE THERE IS NOTHING NOW PENDING TO PREVENT THE NEW RATE FROM APPEARING AT ANYTIME. HOWEVER I DO EXPECT FOR BANKING REASON THEY MAY WAIT TILL THE JAN 1 DATE…IF ANYTHING CHANGES I WILL GET BACK TO YOU IMMEDIATELY. I AM SUPER PUMPED.
Millionday: WE ARE HAVING A HUGE NEWSTIME TONIGHT THAT IS NOTHING BUT EXCITING
poppy3: SORRY MD I TOLD THEM ALL THE NEWS LOL, LOL ACTUALLY DON’T TELL THEM EVERYTHING SOME OF THEM WILL PASS OUT . LOL, LOL NOT SURE SOME OF THEM CAN HANDLE IT. LOL, LOL YOU COULD PULL THEIR LEG A LITTLE. AMEN
Millionday: POPPY THERE IS SO MUCH AND I THINK WE MAY LOSE A FEW TOO LOL THIS IS GREAT IN THE DAY OF NEWS — I AM SO EXCITED..
Millionday: NOTE — A HUGE ISX CONFERENCE WILL BE HELD IN LONDON IN A LITTLE OVER A MONTH JAN 20TH TO 21ST — WHOOPOW
Millionday: He said Ahmed Al Jader – one of the officials in the company – in a statement singled out by the «morning», that «the idea of the conference is based on the collection of stock markets and global markets in the Middle East and North Africa with Arab and foreign investors in the global capital for investment «London» where is the Iraq Stock Exchange of the most important financial markets planned to invest in
Millionday: NOTE — THE MEANING OF THE MEETING AND THE EXPECTED RESULT IS THE COLLECTION OF ALL MARKETS AND GLOBAL MARKETS IN THE ARAB REGION TO BE FOR INVESTMENT THROUGH LONDON MARKET (ACCESSIBLE) WHOOOPOW THIS IS FOR INVESTMENT SO OBVIOUSLY THIS IS HUGE HUGE NEWS AND CONFERENCE AS WELL
Millionday: THE PROMOTION WILL BE TO SHOW THE ISX AS ALSO REPRESENTIVE OF >>>>>>a true reflection of the reality of the private sector in the country activated.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OH WHOOPOW WHOOOOPOW
carpet: does that mean no RV till after jan 20
Millionday: NO THIS MEANS THAT THE >>>>a true reflection of the reality of the private sector in the country activated.>>> WILL BE ABLE TO BE SEEN BY THE CONFERENCE IF ALL IS ON TIME BY THIS CONFERENCE
Millionday: NOTE — THE IMF WILL BE MONITORING THE USE OF THE APPROVED BUDGET AND ITS APPLICATION AND SUCCESS
Millionday: I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE MOVE TO IMF MONITORING WOULD MOVE THE ARTICLE THEY ARE UNDER FROM THE ECONOMIC SANCTIONS AND THE REPORTED MOVE TO THE MARKET — THE ISX — THE INDUSTRY ACTIVATION — THE PLANTS STARTING BACK UP
firefly: IMO, we are VERY close. The date doesn’t matter, what matters is that it has begun! We can crunch numbers all we want, speculate all we want. Bottom line is, this plan was not designed to fail!
elmerf123456 wrote For all those that had a sense of panic because of what the market did today…Don’t! We are in a far better spot than you think we are. A lot has transpired since 2:30 est. take a mental pause, relax, give your family a hug and most importantly thank our Creator for the new life in store for you. Our celebratory goal is near finished but our good deads work is only beginning.
elmerf123456 wrote I am very focused on Friday and Saturday. Believe why your here. Use what you know, demonstrate the same faith that kept you here for it was not in vein. All our signs are all around you. Let’s keep it there for now and trust your instincts. There are no coincidences, but there is and always has been a plan and it will show its face sooner than you think IMO.
platinumrunway wrote Actually we are getting closer. The codes are at the bank confirmed. didnt exchange as of yet.
platinumrunway wrote Anyone who had appointment today it is my belief it was for prep… They are getting ready for us so hang in there…… i know its rough for everyone be encouraged.
platinumrunway wrote Wont go into actual rates but i was advised they were on some screens others are placeholders, and this should be a Merry Christmas for Dinar land.
platinumrunway wrote they want to start exchanges now, we are at the end i truly believe. Words from my wealth manager and i quote “There is no reason for anyone not to have exchanged before Christmas”.
platinumrunway wrote Please stay grounded I only shared what was personal experience. I do believe we are at the end, just praying it will happen this time.
THEN LATER….
platinumrunway wrote Well it’s more than just excitement for me. For the first time today a WM from WF Bank looked me straight in my eyes and said I should have one of the best Christmas ever. That spoke volumes
platinumrunway wrote What my WM is doing is giving me daily updated infor as to what he gets in their daily memos
platinumrunway wrote The met today on how to profile clients and meet specific needs. Not to mention if you have a plan your more likely to get better rates, perks, and better interest rates.
platinumrunway wrote By the way there is not LEAVE for bank employees until after mid Jan.
platinumrunway wrote You need to present yourself as if you are conducting business. Have your plan and backup plan together. They want our business but keep in mind they work for the bank. Here is a list of what they will look for
Did you show up on time, do you have an account set up already, how prepared are you, do you have knowledge of banking services
They will ask what are your plans & goals, long and short term
Keep in Mind we are also interviewing them, you dont have to say yes at the first bone they throw you, a little meat makes the meal go further
platinumrunway wrote When speaking with bankers remain calm because some will be very pissed while doing your transactions
platinumrunway wrote Closed mouth will not get fed, even though you may have knowledge they may not be privy to dont make them seem like they are idiots, after all they determine your final outcome
platinumrunway wrote Most of all guys, greet them with a firm handshake and sound confident. They are expecting some of us to be off the chain, so they can have a reason to say we dont deserve to have this
platinumrunway wrote MY 3 P’s ARE: PROFESSIONAL, POLITE, AND PERSISTENT
platinumrunway wrote Remember Tony used to say two things, 1. Follow the money, and 2. Dont listen to what they say but what they do case and point: Remember how many banks told you this was a scam, and how they would not be participating in any currency exchange? Well Riddle Me This, “Why were there surplus amounts of money delivered to these banks, that are so called not participating?
platinumrunway wrote Point 2 Many banks have said flat out we will not participate in any type of scam dealing with dinar or other currency….well why the HECK are you selling it to me then?
platinumrunway wrote You guys are all welcome, if I have anything new, I will share it. Like I said before Elmer hit the nail on the head earlier today so keep your ear close to the ground, The Fat Lady is about to take the stage!!!!!!
platinumrunway wrote Guys it’s here, they cannot keep a lid on this much longer, trust your instincts, you will be fine!!!!
———————————–
TODAY – THIS MORNING
COdreamer wrote 1074.8 http://www.forex.tradingcharts.com/chart/US%20Dollar_Iraqi%20Dinar.html (save the link for future use)
zebragirl wrote CO, that’s the new normal 🙂
JerseyBoysFaninMN wrote Lots of conversation yesterday on Open Mic about what that rate hike means. Most surprising to me was that there was wording in Dodd/Frank tying credit card debt to your mortgage. Argh! People with ARM’s (adjustable rate mortgages) will likely take a big hit when their mortgages come due.
dakota miller wrote Things that make you go hmmmmmmm…..that our congress is willing to pass the imf rule change that modifies our position…..hmmmm..maybe our negotiators received what our country needed…..hmmm….maybe r.v. related
platinumrunway wrote Your welcome guys and gals. expecting to hear an updated memo on where we really are today.
so who is platinum?
platinumrunway wrote im a celebrity makeup artist by trade … i love it, my wife does also
rayfaulk wrote Morning gang.. I hope this finds you feeling happy this a.m. YES, I too want the RV but I am patiently (and sometimes not as much) waiting…. but, am enjoying being alive and with some great friends here on TNT… I work hard to try and cultivate a mindset of gratitude and, for the most part, it helps…
elmerf123456 wrote It is very appropriate that this little nook in the world is now called TNT Showtime !
elmerf123456 wrote And also remember that what seems to have taken forever even for those who have been in this 12 years or more entire plan was laid out 50 years ago and there is so much different this year than there was last year and it’s coming from all sides we are witnessing a certain change and how things are done in that bodes well for all of us and I’m happy for everyone Who persevered !
APPALOOSA wrote Pam is watching she just doesn’t have the time to engage with us as she has done previously. I’m sure things will slow down for her soon.
ABOUT 7 AM PT….
Iko Ward wrote Gold just fell to 1050. Oil below 35. S&P starting off at -.33. Here we go.
platinumrunway wrote Morning guys need to clear some things up for you. People are asking who is Platinum?
platinumrunway wrote I am NOT a guru, nor do want to be. I am just like most of you, only difference I have a direct WM who is giving me play by play on the process as it is presented to him.
platinumrunway wrote So by no means do I have connections with any agency, government affiliate, or foreign country, just wanted to make that clear.
platinumrunway wrote Im here just like everyone else, with bills to pay and mouths to feed, so if you have an issues with that I will stop sharing information. Some people are just rude, but I wont let that ruin it for the others.
STARTED ABOUT 7:30 AM PT…
Dusty Stephens wrote Just got off phone with my PB from WF said whole system is on high alert status and he thinks within the next 72 hrs
platinumrunway wrote Only reason I say sooner is because of meeting between Wealth Managers at the following banks right now: WF, BOA, HSBC, CITI,
platinumrunway wrote Guys its all good, just waiting for the next nugget to drop.
dinardan4 wrote Just announced on RFD TV that the Argentina Peso was devaluing by 30 per cent today….WOW!!!!!! Commodities all down this AM.
elmerf123456 wrote No reason to misinform, no reason to try and use fluff or hype. have you paid attention to all that’s going on around you have you looked for the clues have you studied what’s going on in the background in terms of oil gold silver gas etc. have you started the volume index ? Did you pay attention to the demeanor of the speech yesterday and the cautious optimism that was implied ? Relax folks, and get out your Sunday suit for I truly believe the transformation is about to begin !
K Boom wrote USD is up: 99.00 +0.60 +0.61% Metals getting pounded down: Gold 1,053.20 -23.60 -2.19% Silver 13.745 -0.503 -3.53% And Oil drops again- now below 35/bbl : Crude Oil 34.92 -0.60 -1.69%
ABOUT 8:40 AM PT….to 9:15 AM PT