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FRIDAY, MARCH 4, 2016
TNT :Negotiating at your Exchange by MOTHER, ESQ., 4 MARCH
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Mother said07:06 AM Mar 4, 2016
WSOMN CHAT WITH INTEL, 4 MARCH
Tulips : Mick posted rates went live at 6:08 pm last night. Banks from 2am-4am were switching over worldwide. We are waiting to see if all was a go if they communicated. If they did we have had the official change and we get 800#s. We find out when markets open in NYC.
Wolfy: “dont get too excited just yet I have received word that the banks communicated 100% and we are good to go–Thats just 1 confirmation–I want more than that before I come unglued’ “I like to have at least 3 confirmations before I get overly excited so bare with it a little while–its coming”
TANK : “Wolfy, I CAN GIVE YOU A SECOND CONFIRMATION THAT WE’re GOING LUVE TODAY AND BANKS CAN SEE THE RATES“
Mick: I confirm what Tank is saying
Wolfy: I agree with TANK and MICK but before I explode I will need 2 more confirmations from my personal contacts–sorry but is just how I roll
BigDog: I will add this slight variation on the status: the rocket is on the launch pad, fueled and ready, weather is perfect, all systems go, launch time see for 12:00pm eastern time.
DHT: Someone posted on Recaps last year that Wednesdays and Fridays were the most-used days for RI/RV activities
LANDA GLOBAL CALL ARCHIVE, 4 MARCH
CONFERENCE CALL ARCHIVE
Notes From “The Big Call” Thursday Night 3-3-16 by WSOMN Members, 4 MARCH
B: YES, WE ARE FURTHER ALONG THAN ON TUES NIGHT – WAITING ON NOTIFICAITON ONLY
b; only one thing were awaiting __ NOTIFICATIONS.
b: banks ready. maned. opened late. bankers on cc’s today, trying to coordinate emails and 80 #s
B: COORDINATING RELEASE OF EMAILS AND 800#S AND THAT HAS BEEN DONE – WE DON’T KNOW WHEN, BUT WE ARE READY TO RECEIVE
B: IRAQ IS DONE, CARDS CHARGED AND UP AND RUNNING
b: don’t worry about iraq. much larger iraq, important part, but we’re past that now.
B: IRAQ HAD A LOT TO DO, BUT THEY GOT IT DONE, THEY ARE THERE
b: 12- 13 years, iraq has jumped thru their hoops, put out by certain govts. they did it. we’re set from th at point of view. about to be in’tl
b; zim. set, and good to go
B: AS FAR AS OTHER CURRENCIES, ZIM GOOD TO GO, THERE HAVE BEEN LEADERS IN ZIMBABWE RECENTLY TALKING ABOUT THE VALUE OF THEIR CURRENCY
B: ZIMBABWE HAS SO MANY RESOURCES
b; they have so much over there that can be mined, precious minerals, etc far more wealth than we ever knew, but now coming forward.
b; rates good, high. proxicimity is GOOD .. all is done, just waiting notifications.
B: NO RATES AND DATES, WE ARE RIGHT THERE, JUST WAITING TO BE NOTIFIED
b; if you’re in a group, email, or phone call. most will find out 800#’s online, or from a friend
B: 800#’S ONLINE OR IN AN EMAIL
b; if you are part of a group, and receive a group notification, use the number tht comes with the email. don’t mix the 800#’s from the internet public
STARTING Q&A
IS AFGAHNI STILL IN THE BASKET?
A: yes, all original currencies still there
Q: HOW SHOULD WE DO THE EXCHANGE, SOON AS POSSIBLE OR WAITING?
A; no benefit to waiting. rates is so high, no sence in waiting . go in, get it done, set your appointment, get it done. and live a very rich and happy life when you come out.
Q: FROM UK: CONCERNED ABOUT INFO GIVEN OUT ABOUT EXCHANGES, USA LOT OF INFO, NOT MUCH OVER HERE – CONCERNED ABOUT THAT
A; we understand certan banks will do exchanges: barclays, just call your int’l bank, ask for foreign currency exchange within bank, tell them what you have, set appto, go in and process. just like we’ll do here in states.
Q: ABOUT ZIM: 100T NOTES ADVERTISED FOR $60, THOUGHTS ON THAT
A; I would say the thoghts are , first of all, regarding currency availability, most of dealers are shutting down by tonight. collectable dealers may remain open for a while. availability re: Ebay, may be available a bit longer. Sellers will be taking their sites down.
Q: ABOUT TIER 1 BANK – US BANK – DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM BEING INVOLVED?
A; if they are in fact a tier 1 .. tier 1 and 11 will be involved. if you have a connection to them, or have an 800#, they will be involved. US bank pretty good sized. believe they will be competitive. don’t know about precise rates, but close. essentially choose where you want to bank.
Q: CONTRACT RATES – IN EARLY DAYS, WAS A CONTRACT THAT CHINA MADE WITH UST, SINCE THEN, MORFED INTO REQUIREMENTS INTO CONTRACT WITH BANKS, MISINFORMATION OR VALIDITY TO THAT – CONTRACTS?
A; the contract rates does represents a couple of things: a rate that was agrred to between banks and countries. some difference. when we speak of contract rates here, it’s about what happens between you and the banks. some will be higher, some higher. banks flexibility to extend to yo. when they give you the rates, they may want to know what you’re doing with it. how much you’ll be leaving with the bank.
A; they want a partnership, want it in there on a longer term. want to know what percentage you’ll be leaving, 30, 40 50% something to benefit the community. these are the kinds of things the banks want to hear from you. a plan, something typed up, to briefly discuss your humanitarian goals.
A; we’re talking about a lot of money. once past the cars, cloths, houses. you want this money to work, not for it to own you. not about how many zeros you have. it’s meaningless.
A; the richest man in the world, with all the women … vanity. : )
A; money will increase your lifestyle. But, you want it to go further than that for the kingdom of god, for fellow man. for your community. for veterans who
A; it’s our opportnity to change our world. one person at a time, one community at a time. get hooked up. let’s go! let’s go!
A: let’s take this money and make a difference. you still have plenty in your account. 1. lose no money. 2. make money, make it grow. 3. protect the money, make sure you have proper structures. 4. bless other people. You can’t outgive God. the Giver
Q: IYO IF WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE BANK IN THE PARAMETERS OF THE MKT RATE, WITH A % IN OUR ACCOUNT, WOULD WE AVOID NDA?
A; if you’re not getting a true contract rate, our understanding at this time, there’s no NDA. if you do have a contract, with or without a group, probably will have an NDA
Q: TAXES, WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED TO LAY ASIDE 50%, MAKING THE ASSUMPTION THAT THIS SHOULD BE IN AN ESCROW ACCOUNT, IS THIS ADVISABLE?
A; ummmhumm! i say this .. we’ve heard this may or may not be taxable event. when we were hearing the 50%, we thought this would be more than needed. instead of setting it aside in an escrow account, outside of your 6 months living funds — leave the rest in an account to WORK for you. You’ll find out soon enough if it’s taxable. Don’t believe the banks will be collecting taxes.
A; set a certain amount aside, if there are to be any taxes taken out, set aside. may be a flat tax. be prepared for anything when we go in, some of these questions should be answered by the time we get there.
Q: IF IT’S NON-TAXABLE, IF THE FUNDS WERE IN THE ESCROW ACCOUNT WOULD IT BE PENALIZED IF WE TOOK IT OUT?
A; no, realize you’re just using a seperate account, that you’ve set aside money, in case you want to use for taxes if there is an issue.
Q: IYO, WOULD INSURANCE ON OUR ACCOUNTS COVER FOR NEGATIVE INTEREST AT THE BANKS
A; what we understand is that fdic is back in for an unlimited amount on the accounts, lloyds of london, abbot downing, or wells, will be covered with insurance. don’t see negative interest being an issue. interest will be offered to us over 5 – 5%. this is not a small account. initially, 100M, now more of a PERCENTAGE to get decent rates.
Q: EXCHANGE CENTERS IN TEX ARKANA?
A; will there be Arkansas, Texas exchange centers? As far as I know, for sure. That’s a good sized market. going to have exchange centers all over the country. the furtherst anyone will have to drive, to get to exchange locations, about 82 miles. that’s what I’ve heard. just have your preferd zip code ready.
Q: AFTER EXCHANGE CAN I SPEND $ FROM MY ACCOUNT BEFORE SEEING WM, AND ABOUT HOW MUCH?
A; what you’ve got is tht you should have a little bit of cash, also get a cashier’s check to take to reguar bank, don’t spend money out of mother load accoutn. no debit cards, checks. just move it as you need it in smaller amounts. use cashier’s checks / bank drafts.
A; use some funds to buy a new DO and OUTFIT, so you can be well dressed for your W.M.
Q: DEALERS BEING TOLD TO STOP AND CLOSING BOOKS – HOW DOES THAT WORK?
A; what we’re hearing is that locations have been shut down, others told to wrap up sales tonight.
Q: IS DINAR CONSIDERED INT’L BY IRAQI GOV’T AND OTHER GOV’T AROUND THE WORLD, AND BEING TRADED – IF SO, WHY THERE AND NOT THE US? RATES CHANGED IN COUNTRY, QUI CARDS?
A; the one thing about the qi-cards / mastercards, those can be used outside the country. on the other hand, hey, iraq is back .. we’ve not heard that particular announcement. i can’t tell you if anything is exchangeable from iraq in other countries.
Q: WITH SO MANY PROTESTORS ENTERING THE GREEN ZONE, WHAT ARE THEY LOOKIG TO ACCOMPLISH, DOESN’T THIS NEED TO BE HANDLED FIRST AND THEN CURRENCY REFORM NEXT?
A; not really. so called protestors didn’t really amount to much. sort of a fake protest that didn’t do much, or mean much. there have been some bombings, sad to said, but stiil that does occur. monetary reform has been done. the dinar has been acknowledge at the G7 meeting, and at the G20. Meeting in Switzerland the Dinar was acknowledged. don’t look for much out of iraq now. just need to go to global currency resets where everyone sees it.
Q: HOW IMPORTANT IS MOSUL AT THIS HOUR, IS IT SECURE ENOUGH TO MOVE FORWARD FOR CURRENCY REFORM?
A; mosul is one of the under siege cities, needs to be taken back. don’t know if it’s out of isis hands, but was nothing that was keeping the greater monetary reforms from going thru. it was taken back over 2-3 weeks ago. not that much of an issue. trying to make an all out effort on isis and get them out of the way.
Q; HOW CAN WE KNOW WHICH GROUP WE ARE MEMBERS OF – IS IT DETERMINED BY YOUR MEMBERSHIP IN DINAR WEBSITES?
A; not really. the so-=called internet group, is just a group of a non-official group, folks that have been following it more closely online. WF group will get an email, and will be contacted by a group leader. WE =’s THE GROUP. Some put an email in and didn’t get a confirmations, but don’t worry. you’re in.
A;; can’t take emails and share them, forward them, if in a group, it’s considered private. keep it private and to your self. Don’t want to mix 800#’s
Q: CLARIFICATION ON THE BIG CALL
A: we won’t be notifiyng by email check website: thebigcall.net if we are allowed to publish the ‘internet 800’s’ that’s where they’ll be posted. they mail email them to us, we hope we get them. if we do, they’ll be on our site.
A; go into your appintment dressed professionally, carry your dinar in a briefcase, don’t be talking abou tthis on social media. it’s PRIVATE FINANCIAL BUSINESS. take it seriously, it’s life changing. be prepared. enjoy it. You’re part of the privlidged (sp). show ourselves worthy of this now.
Q: AUSTRALIA QUESTION: WHEN THE 800#S ARE RELEASED, IT MEANS WORLDWIDE RIGHT, SO WE CAN CALL THE RESPECTIVE BANK IN SYDNEY AND EXCHANGE? RIGHT?
A; most of the membership is located here in the states. we have some down under friends, canadian friends, etc.. generally speaking, don’t know if we’ll have 800#’s for all banks around the world.
A; if you have an HSBC .. down under, would be where you want to start who are outside of the US. just contact your largest banks, and talk to them about setting appt. for exchange
Q: PLEASE POSE A FEW QUESTIONS AS EXAMPLES TO USE WHEN NEGOTIATING FOR A HIGHER RATE
A; what you’re going to be doing: thank you mr. banker ___ address your project, we want to be working closely with you on this ( outline a few details ) and negotiate the rate upwards that will allow you the funds to accomplish your goals.
Water, medical, hydroponics, technology..just explain it briefly, “I believe i need a rate, and enough money to accomplish in this area, that will fund these projects I’m interested in.” Dialog with your WM, discuss the rate, multiple it out and based on rate gives you X amount of dollars .. if I can show you where I’ll need an extra $100M, will you provide me with a rate high enough to accomplish this?” Look them in the eye, be confident. Be straightforward, honest.
K: WHAT CAN YOU TELL THAT WILL CONVINCE ME NOT TO SHOP AROUND FOR A RATE?
A; They don’t want you shopping around. they want the funds. if in a group, you have pre-negotiated rates. Proably won’t be able to change those. I don’t really know about pre-negotiated rates. You’ll have to ask at our appt.
Q: DO YOU THINK WE’LL BE WAITING TILL THE END OF MARCH/EARLY APRIL?
A; no, I don’t think so. I think this thing is ready to go. They want this completed.
Q: CAN YOU SHARE YOUR VISION OF THE VETERAN RETREAT NETWORK AND HOW I CAN GET INVOLVED?
A; there’s the desire for us to give back to veteran’s, maybe where other organizations are not fulfuling some of those needs. we’ll probably affiliate and network woth other organiations. initially, we will serve a seniaro where we see a need for counceling,
A; the veteran’s retreat network is designed for veterans to learn how to build out housing, community centers, recreational venues. Won’t be done overnight, will take our time. Will be affiliating with other organizations to enhance veterans needs. Will have a national meeting
A; anything we plan on doing together, will be doing so at a national meeting. We’ll let you know via emails, opened to listerners of the big call.
Q: HAVE YOU REC’D YOUR EMAIL EXCHANGE NOTIFICATION?
A; not that I know of, on the call now, haven’t checked, but don’t think so.
Q: HAVE THERE BEEN ANY EXCHANGES IN THE US THIS WEEK, HAVE ALL THE BIG GROUPS EXCHANGED YET?
A; for the most part no, may have been a few people called in, even some gotten SKR. But, groups not gone in
Q: CAN YOU TELL ME IF THE SLIGHTLY CIRCULATED CURRENCY IS ACCEPTED BESIDES THE NEW CURRENCY?
A; Yes, don’t think this will be a problem.
Q: HEARD THAT THEY MAY DROP 0’S OFF DINAR & DONG, LIKE THE ZIM?
A; The ZIM: trillions — 10, 50, 100. 6zeros 3zeros off B’s. Rest of notes face values. With Dinar: no zeros off.
Q: WHAT ARE THE 5 CURRENCIES IN THE BASKET?
A// Ruphia, Afghi, Dinar, Zim,
A: DONG ALSO
Q: ANY WORD THAT NDA IS REQ’D FOR INT’L OR MARKET RATE?
A; not required for int’l NDA
Q: ANY OTHER MYTHS TO TELL US?
A; I think we are trying to gleen the truth of what we hear, have all been faked out by intel, but I believe the contacts Kent and I have now is very solid. We are set to go.
Q: WHEN GIFING OUR CHILDREN, ETC., DO WE NEED WRITTEN DOCUMENTION OF THE GIFT?
A; you really want to draw something up, that is dated, says I hereby give 1 M dong to (name) which has a current market value of $60 USD. Sign it, notary is personal preference, have a wittness, have 3 signatures. Date. Value in US dollars at time of gift. Name of person/Beneficiary of that gifting letter.
Q: FROM CANADA: WILL THERE BE 800#S, WILL THE RATES BE THE SAME, RATES ON THE FRONT SCREEN?
A; I h ave heard that right now, rates are live on all screens. don’t know if that on teller, or back. Rates may be different in Canada, international may be different. as far as 800 #’s I would think we can put out a # for RDC, TD, Scotia bank.
A: Also, HSBC up there.
Q: IF WE HAVE HUMANITARIAN PROJECTS ANY ADVANTAGE OF SPENDING OUR MONEY ON OTHER PROJECTS LISTED?
A; I would say that humanas, landa china global has a lot of projects in the pipe line , ZAP can be contacted.
K: ASK ABOUT HOW MUCH CONTROL YOU NEED AND HELP YOU NEED RUNNING IT
A: Good idea to add the issue of how much control one has on projects.
Q: HOW WILL THE CERTIFICATE FROM STERLING WILL AFFECT THE CURRENCY FROM THEM?
A; Can’t speak to cert. of authenticity, because I never saw that. I can’t really comment, except to say the currency is legitimate will be like any other dealer. know there was overprinting. take it in, you should be fine. believe they’ve made allowance for any duplicating of currency.
Q: IT APPEARS THAT RV WAS SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN LAST NIGHT, DO Y OU KNOW WHY?
A;; it appeared it was going last night, have heard from several sources it’s on track. was a few paper work issues, got handled, and placed back on track.
Q: DO ALL OF THE FACTIONS OF THE ADMIRALS GROUP HAVE TO BE DONE BEFORE THE WF GROUP GOES THROUGH?
A’: I don’t believe so. Won’t talk specifically about groups. this is a shot gun start gun start .. like a golf tournament. Everyone goes at once.
Q: HOW CAN YOU ASSURE US THAT ALL THE INTEL ABOUT THAT IS OUT THERE AND IT IS READY TO GO AND THE 800#S ARE COMING?
A; I can only assure you that I’m comfortable with the information we’re getting, that we are there. From the best of our sources, we are there. We’re so far along now, I feel very confident, I can’t call it on a certainity, would not be wise of me to do that. But, I do feel really good about our timing.
Q: HEARD A FEW PEOPLE SAY THAT WE WILL NOT SEE IT TILL AFTER ELECTIONS, HAVE YOU HEARD THAT?
A; This is not the intention.
Q: IS CHINA REALLY IN CONTROL OF THIS GCR? WILL PRIVATE GROUPS BE NOTIFIED TONIGHT, SINCE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO LAST NIGHT?
A; We do believe China in the drivers seat. Lot of pieces to this puzzle. Things came up with Greece, many issues involving 206 countries getting on the same page. Recalibrations of banks, every single bank needs to be accurate. We’re thinking it could have gone last night, but feel that our proximity is right there, but I can’t guarantee it. Can only tell you what I feel.
Q: WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST IF EACH BANK HAVE IT’S OWN 800#?
A; Each bank will have their own 800# that is what they will do. If that number is available, if you want to use a particular bank, ie: Wells Fargo, then call that #. They will have exchange locations in every state. Citi, Chase, WF, all own #’s. Don’t believe I’d pit banks against one another in the initial appointment. Pick one near by, and go and get it done. All will be super competitive.
NO MORE QUESTIONS. BRUCE: GOOD JOB WITH GREAT QUESTIONS. I THINK THAT WE JUST HAVE TO BE A LITTLE MORE PATIENT. NOTHING HOLDING IT UP.
B: CHINA WANTS IT TO GO. CABAL NOT IN THE WAY EITHER, JUST A MATTER OF TIMING.
BRUCE: Guys, you’ve asked good questions. Most of information we’ve put out, now need to be patient to let it roll out. Heard today of a ‘slight delay’ with some paperwork. Got put all back on track. CABAL not involved. Major Tweeking. Almost home. Believe it.
B: BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ALMOST THERE.
KENT TAKING US OUT IN PRAYER!
saintandrewstwinflame 
Taking another day off here and wanted to comment just a little bit about the “Exchange”. I am not an Intel provider but simply an “educator” on what I perceive to be tactics.
Again I admonish. You to be discerning in who you listen to among the Intel providers. As Rayren has stressed this week and last week, “there is some crazy stuff” out there. A lot of it starts out good and then as you get near the end “the yellow submarine” takes effect and and the lunacy comes out.
I received many positive comments on my last posting thank you. And only by a few negative. I do not read everything – time constraints to be candid. However, I approach my analyzing like a lawyer approaches “evidence”. When a lawyer looks at a document or listen to testimony we are looking at “context” – a document we apply the “4 corners” test which is often referred to as “Parole Evidence”. Not going to give you all a dissertation here but – when I read a posting or even listen to a call – in the back of my mind I am running through the tests for heresy statements, relevant facts, lineage etc. Lastly I apply something that is applied in “criminal proceedings”. The doctrine of “Fruit from the “Poisoness Tree”. This doctrine says that if there is a violation in the collection of evidence in other words things like “chain of custody” or someone lied to obtain an affidavit or something was done wrong in the pursuit of evidence then anything obtained from this “Tree of evidence” is tainted and therefor thrown out. This all applies to investigations done by the state in criminal investigations. You may be asking how does this apply to my thinking? Well when I look at a blog or posting and I see something crazy in it – then in my mind the whole thing is “tainted”. Many of said take the good and discard the bad. That is like separating the “wheat from the chaff”. However if the source is bad how can you trust anything the person says? What is their motive? What is their agenda? That is why I put those links up last time so you can go to those sources yourself and see. I was simply providing you with “context” so you could make the intelligent decisions on your own.
To my main purpose this morning. Negotiating. Please do not over complicate your first visit to the bank or exchange center by:
1.Taking an entourage of folks with you
2.Telling the banker you want to be a philanthropist and give away a lot of money
If you take someone with you to the bank you may block or prevent yourself from having a shot at “contract” rates. Because everyone knows a NDA will have to be signed. And that agreement is between you and the bank acting as agent for the government. Do you really want to make the circle larger and create possible leaks that would jeopardize your future? If you take someone with you and they do not have a stake in this – it is easy for them to put you in jeopardy. Of course not willingly but why do you want to expose yourself? Remember, “Lose lips sink ships”.
I heard earlier this week from some outfit or notes from a call. Tell them the banker at the exchange you want to give to humanitarian causes and be this great philanthropist. Why in the world if I am a banker would I want to do business with someone who wants to give it all away? I am representing the bank or financial institution. When you go into the bank – you need to tell the banker or exchanger, “Hey first of all thank you for working me into day. I know you are busy and have been dealing with a lot of folks. Please I want and it is my hope we can establish a solid banking relationship and your institution can give me guidance for long term stability, planning. I want this to a mutually great profitable partnership, I would like to obtain the highest possible rate or contract rate available..” Now your talking the banker’s language. They are there to make money for the bank and collect assets for management. If right out of the gate you tell them how great you are and how much you want to give away – what is their incentive to help you? Remember when negotiating, do not play all your cards, and the second rule upon making an opening statement, “first one who talks loses”. Just make a nice opening statement, then be quiet. You have 1. Been gracious to the banker or showed empathy, 2. You have set the table – that you are sophisticated and want a solid relationship, 3. You have shared your expectations. Now be quiet.
Again you want to play to the vanity and greed of banks. If you go in saying your going to give money away – how does that benefit them? And remember “Planned Giving” is a part of “Planning” it is not about Exchanging. You are there to do an exchange not “plan”. So keep the two separate.
At your next appointment even then is not the time to “blab”. It is the time to meet the Planner and or Wealth manager and lay out goals and objectives to sustain your wealth into the future and grow it and put structures together that maximize “asset protection”, “provide for yourself and possible heirs” and to “minimize tax liabilities”. Planned giving fits into the last category because through planned giving you effect tax liabilities.
Anyway I hope in some way this helps a lot of folks.
Be courteous, kind and gracious upon your exchange. Keep it simple you are there to exchange and obtain the highest rate as possible if you chose that route. And you want to communicate stability, a level of sophistication and you want to get it over with so the banker can move on to the next person. Simple keep it that way. Be as “Wise as a Serpent and as Harmless as a Dove.
Kindest regards
Mother, Esq.