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RV/GCR Chatter ~ 3/24/2016 Today at 8:06 am
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Dinarland Highlights for March 23, 2016
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Dinarland Highlights – 3.23.16
Bruce
WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE REST OF THIS WEEK. WE ARE RIGHT WHERE WE NEED TO BE RIGHT NOW. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TO COME VERY VERY QUICKLY. WE KNOW WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO RECEIVING IT. EVERYTHING IS ABOUT READY TO CHANGE RIGHT NOW. NOTIFICATIONS ARE ALL WE ARE LOOKING FOR NOW.
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wmawhite
The ISX spent huge $$ for the new trading platform that will enable it to trade with 23 other international trading platform from around the globe…they are waiting to activate it. The ISX, IMO, is the one unspoken indicator that truly shows us that Iraq intends to change the status of the IQD, as well as its value.
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rcookie
ALL OF THE INDICATORS THAT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN NECESSARY TO DRIVE AND SUPPORT ANY IQD VALUE CHANGE…THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN ADDRESSED UNTIL THIS PAST YEAR…INVESTMENT LAWS…BANKING…CORRUPTION ADDRESSMENT… INSURANCE…CUSTOMS & TARIFFS…AML/CFT COMPLIANCE…NON OIL DIVERSIFICATION…COMPREHENSIVE BUDGET EXECUTION…CONFORMITY & COMPLIANCE TO IMF/WB/UN REFORMS AND MANDATES TOWARD ARTICLE VIII DECLARATION AND WTO ACCESSION…INDICATORS LIKE THE ISX…AND PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPMENT FOCUS IS THE FUEL FOR THE IRAQ ECONOMIC FERRARI.
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Adam Montana
It certainly doesn’t take a rocket surgeon or a brain scientist to see that oil is silly low right now. After you take into account for inflation, it’s even more obvious that this low rate cannot last. Now, if a bunch of numbskulls like us can easily see that oil should probably be closer to $80… don’t you think Iraq can, too? I certainly do. As I type this, oil hasn’t moved and we still haven’t seen any significant news on the HCL. The GOOD news is that it also doesn’t take a genius to grasp that oil is probably about as low as it can possibly go, which means there’s only one way for it to go from here. UP. And the GREAT news is that in spite of these ridiculously low oil prices, the CBI has maintained a very strong grip on the exchange rate, proving that they are, as always, very capable of manipulating their market how they wish. …at this time I think our motto is: “Watch the oil”.
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Mountain Goat
HCL still is not all settled and the citizens have not yet received their share of the oil revenues. They can load the funding on the Qi cards all they want but until they activate them (new rate or old rate it does not matter) they have not yet paid them. The GOI does not want to pay out oil revenues since the government has mismanaged the great wealth of the nation and the money is simply not there to pay out. Instead it is all in the pockets of the crocked politicians. These HCL payments to the citizens are…mandated by the UN and the USA. Now we see the religious clerics too fighting for the average citizen for them to get what is rightfully theirs. Just remember…that their new constitution must be FULLY implemented or no RV. Mark these words carefully…not as a rumor or conjecture, but as FACTUAL. I have been told this directly by some very strong politically connected people, people who don’t lie and would have no reason to lie.
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Adam Montana
[What’s your take on Iraq getting the approval from the UN and WTO on the upcoming issue of Articular 8?]
I’ve never placed a major emphasis on Article 8, and I still don’t. That would be a strategic detail, whereas I still believe it’s more about the fundamentals at this time. Those fundamental things have been whittled down to a very short list:
1. HCL.
I like short lists!
Here’s something for everyone to consider, speaking of fundamentals. I made a big deal out of how the Kurds and Baghdad were getting along so much better lately. If you’ve been in this for long, you will know that we used to ALWAYS see article after article about 7% this and 14% that and Kuwait boycotting Parliament due to non-payment and on and on… have you seen much of that lately? Or any? Nope. It’s been very quiet on that front, because they’ve got those fundamentals worked out. They’re playing nice with each other, and despite the wait… I really like our odds once we start seeing oil go back up.
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wmawhite
…”cashing in”…people do not cash in currency…countries do not cash in currency reserves. Instead, currency is “exchanged” for something of another value…we will exchange for another currency relative to what we want to use…countries, may exchange another currency for yet another, or may not exchange at all.
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Mountainman
If I Recall Correctly…Iraq ALREADY has their SWIFT CODES for International Banking…as we Know IRAN does as Well…thus IMO…As Normal…Most things are Already PLANNED and IMPLEMENTED behind Closed Doors…and then (WHEN) Appropriate
Bamm…They show it to the World…!
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OOTW
“[Parliament] Agenda of the meeting No. (23) Monday 4 April 2016 April 4, 2016”
“…the vote on the draft Islamic Bank loan development (draft law and the draft law on ratification Istisnaa agency Istisnaa between the Government of the Republic of Iraq and the Islamic development Bank Convention on the Law…”
IS ABOUT ISLAMIC BANKING REGULATIONS FOR LOANS TO THE GOVERNMENT FOR PROJECTS… “DRAFT CENSUS LAW”. THAT’S A BIG DEAL BECAUSE, IF THIS IS TO DO WITH TAKING A CENSUS, INCL THE KURDISTAN REGION, THEN THIS IS A PRECURSOR TO FULFILLING THE REQUIREMENT FOR A CENSUS PRIOR TO DISTRIBUTION OF THE CITIZENS’ PROFITS RE OIL PAYMENT SHARES.
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rcookie
WTO ACCESSION IS A HIGHLY INDIVIDUALIZED PROCESS…THAT IS DIFFERENT FOR EVERY COUNTRY….AND MOSTLY INVOLVES INTERNATIONAL TRADE AND INTERPRETATION AND APPLICATION OF GATT (GENERAL AGREEMENT TARIFFS & TRADE) OF 1948 AND TRADE ARRANGEMENTS AND LAWS BETWEEN COUNTRIES…AND THE LEGAL PROCESS OF TRADE DISPUTES AND SETTLEMENT PROCESSES…IRAQ STARTED ITS WTO ACCESSION PROCESS IN 2004…IT IS A LONG…AND GRUELING PROCESS…THAT THEY ASPIRE TO ATTAIN.
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Re: RV/GCR Chatter ~ 3/24/2016 Today at 8:07 am
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THURSDAY, MARCH 24, 2016
WING IT CC, 24 MARCH
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Highlights from Landa Global CC today – Wed- 3.23.16, 24 ,MARCH
Highlights from Landa Global CC today – Wed- 3.23.16
– Pentagon officials are scratching their heads on why the RV/GCR was not released last Monday and again today.
– The Royal Chinese Family is delaying the release of the RV/GCR due to major banking entities still not honoring new treaties in place. This is the cause of the delayed Landa Project Funds.
– The powers that be are pushing this through at a lightning fast rate to get it done before the end of the month, before the second quarter.
– The breach of treaties and global and international compliance by major banking entities is the main reason for delay.
– Top banking officials of these major banking entities are being arrested and are currently in fear.
– A certain amount of top banking officials must still be arrested before RV/GCR can proceed.
– It must be safe before the RV/GCR can proceed.
– In the meantime, innocent people are perishing and lives are at stake.
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WEDNESDAY, MARCH 23, 2016
LANDA GLOBAL CC, 23 MARCH
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TNT : TONYS CLIFF NOTES, 23 MARCH
Highlights of TNT conference call. Updated as the call progresses.
Ray: Two different sides of information we are receiving kind of conflicts with one another. In Iraq Abadhi announced Parliament would be back on Thursday. Citizens saying if not done by the end of March they intend to break into secured areas. Speculative that Friday’s sit in has been cancelled. . . That would take us to the 27th, Easter Sunday.
IN USA: Banks received notification this morning. Looks like they are on the verge of expecting something soon. Maybe today or tomorrow.
If look at Iraq side of things would not expect to see something until March 28th.
CURRENT WINDOW: Ray: Based on their plan . . . would take us to the end of the month. Or the day after. End of the month is next Thursday. I’m not looking for the RV until the 27th – 28 and still have it done by the end of the month.
IRAQ: Saturday is expected to be a big day, historical meeting, with visitors coming. Prices to drop after the Saturday meeting, on Sunday, Easter, March 27th. An impending rate change would drop the prices or the price drop could be to appease the citizens. Ray: My opinion is Iraq is the deciding factor. No way we can look for an RV for us until they are happy. . . some still waiting for payment . . . for back pay.
- Demonstrations: Citizens still camping out. Friday’s sit in may or may not have been cancelled. There are conflicting reports. There are 400 US marines in the green zone for security. Ray’s opinion is the level of protesting will begin to decrease.
- TV /Mosques
INTERNATIONAL:
- Tragedy in Brussels: Ray does not think that will affect the RV.
- Rates: Dong: mentioned on the call at .47. ZIM: Ray has not heard there will be any minimum to the ZIM to exchange. ZIM tied to historical bonds? Hold till they mature? Ray: If it is to be a historical bond then what you ask might apply. Still out to lunch on that one.
UNITED STATES:
- UST:
- Banks: received another notification this morning. They are mobilizing and getting ready. We are awaiting the banks having permission to use the release codes. Ray: Banks received notification this morning. . . on verge of expecting something soon. Maybe today or tomorrow. . . . won’t talk or share information. On the hush-hush. Last couple of weeks they have just been zip. I am not exchanging at a local bank. Going out of the city for that.
- 800’s are supposed to be part of the private groups and not the public.
EXCHANGING: Receipts have not been needed at any of the exchanges Ray has been privy too.
Q & A:
- – Rates on the cards? Ray: Not to my knowledge.
- – Has authorization been given to the banks to use the release codes?Ray: No, not yet.
- – Exchange in home town:Ray: I’ve always been a proponent of going to your neighboring town to exchange, not the one you live in. People talk. The smaller your geographical locations, you have to take that into effect.
- – My son says we’re obligated to put 80% into humanitarian purposes and have a business plan. He’s in a group. How do you get a business plan? How are they going to make sure you do this?Ray: You need to shoot these questions through your son. I’ve not heard anything like that for you to do an exchange. Some groups are doing special things, but it is not a requirement for the rest of us.
- – Ray: Ask the bank when you make your appointment. I don’t see why not.
Ray: I heard that but I don’t know.
Q: Which currency would you purchase to give special friends $1M each? Ray: Dinar, $1,000 per million. Dong: $50 per million. $80/per million for rupiah. Do the math and pick the one you want. Look at each one, what it costs and go from there.
RAY’S CLOSING STATEMENT:
Banks getting notification this morning and making moves to do something. I do not know the notification they received but they are maneuvering. Not just sitting complacent.
On Iraq side, having big to do meeting Saturday. Change prices on Sunday. To me that follows the line of a rate change to appease the people or to compensate for a rate change in the value of the currency. Wanted it done by the end of the month.
Sound dropped off.
Ray: We stand by ready. Will Tweet anything happens.
(I have to run. If there is more info I will post after lunch. I will check the notes when I get back and listen to the replay to post Ray’s full closing remarks. – Sunny)
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TNT CC NOTES, 23 MARCH
TNT Call notes 23-March-2016
RayRen: [TNT Rap]. http://checks Greetings, good afternoon, TNT super-fantastic family! Welcome to our call on Wednesday, March 23, 2016. This is RayRen98.
On Monday we had limited information; there wasn’t a lot of intel out there. Let’s go over to Iraq. The two different sides of the intel we are receiving conflict with each other in terms of a public release. Abadi announced that Parliament will be back on Thursday to vote on the members and government before the visitors arrive on Saturday. The protestors are threatening to break into the secure areas. The Iraqi television then said that they were cancelling the sit-in on Friday, possibly because of 400 US Marines arriving and protecting the Green Zone. Saturday: a big event with international dignitaries coming to town from the World Bank. They are also being told that the price of goods and services will change from the 27th, and we don’t know if that is for appeasement or to reflect a currency revaluation.
That takes us to looking near or at the end of the month, based on their plans. That would tend to make you think the 27th, which is Easter Sunday, or the day after as a time to look for big changes over there… or maybe next Thursday which is the end of the month.
Meanwhile, in the US we are being told that the banks are mobilizing getting ready for change, and it would be surprising to get that memo if it’s for next week. So they are expecting something pretty soon.
Q: I thought we were going to see the RV on March 21-22; is there some reason to expect a Monday rollout? A: Based on information received this morning, I’m thinking today or tomorrow.
Q: Any news on whether we can exchange one note without locking all the currencies into that rate? A: If you are in a group, you should ask your group leaders, because I have heard the single note exchange might lock you into that rate. I haven’t heard that is true for the public. What would be your reason for doing that when you have an appointment in a few days time? Surely it would be better to wait until your appointment? What needs to be handled so urgently that you cannot wait a few days or even two weeks – as opposed to satisfying a need or desire that you want, rather than what you need? Make sure your strategies are sound.
Q: Any news on Travelex – will they release the 800 numbers, too? A: As I understand it, the 800 numbers are for private groups, not the public. So I don’t think Travelex will have that information yet for you to do an exchange. If it’s fully public, across the board, you should be able to exchange just about anywhere.
Q: What currency is the Iraqi people using in the markets? A: I thought they had switched over to working with dinar, with maybe a few dollars.
Q: Are the people being forced to use cards rather than cash money? A: I think they are being encouraged, not forced.
Q: If lower denominations are scarce, how does the economy function? A: Most people now have cards, so you don’t need a lot of paper money.
Q: Are the maximum limits on the contract rates for dinar, dong and zim? A: We haven’t heard about any changes for the dinar and dong; I don’t have information on the zim.
Q: Someone said on the forum yesterday that we have to have the equivalent of 100 trillion in order to exchange. A: I haven’t hear anything about that.
Q: Any info from CBI contacts? A: No.
Q: What if you don’t have your receipts? Will you be able to exchange? A: I haven’t heard of any exchanges where the receipts were needed.
Q: Do you believe the tragedy in Brussels will affect us? A: No.
Q: How will a holding trust protect your assets? A: Ask the banks: What is a holding trust? What purpose does it serve? How will you benefit from that?
Q: The head of the UST and IRS are meeting on Saturday – is that about the RV? A: If so, I would expect something after the meeting, maybe on Sunday or Monday.
Q: Has the desired rate on their cards been reached for the folks in Baghdad? I haven’t seen the level of protest going down. A: I don’t believe the rate has been reached. The protests have been cancelled and there are US Marines there, so…
Q: Has authorization and permission to release gone to the banks? A: No. That is what we are anxiously awaiting.
Q: We have heard six zeroes removed on the zim. If we were to hold onto the zim until the bonds mature, would we then get face rates? A: If the zim supposed to be an historical bond, some of that might apply. I’m still out to lunch on that one. We’ll see.
Q: Who will decide when it’s time to release this RV? Iraq, China, US? A: I think Iraq is the deciding factor there, but that is just my opinion. It’s my belief that we won’t see the RV until Iraq sees it.
Going to members’ calls now:
512 caller: Based on today’s information, are these different opinions a smokescreen to knock us off guard so we don’t know when to expect this?
RayRen: It all depends on what you look at and listen to you. If you believe you won’t see it before the Iraqis see it, then you’re not expecting it this week – there won’t be an RV for us until the protestors are satisfied. If we are waiting for the public release, so every day we hear they are fighting, we are not expecting an RV for us. On the other hand, the banks are hearing that they will be exchanging us tomorrow. I’m thinking that will be private stuff, not a public release while they are marching on the Green Zone. We have two different strands of information to weigh. Personally, I don’t believe we matter! While they are doing their thing over there, I’m not looking for a public RV before the 27th; they say they are dropping prices and having a big historic meeting on Saturday. We could have our shot and they would still have it done by the end of the month.
Caller: When they do their RV in Iraq, ours will follow shortly thereafter?
RayRen: That’s my belief.
Caller: We need to humble ourselves and applaud the Iraqis receiving this exchange. They need to be living better, and it’s one of the most important things to happen for them. We have to wait and be happy when it happens. Have a great week! Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
865/404 caller: When it comes time for our appointments, how much flexibility will we have to get there? Will we have to get in there within 2-3 hours?
RayRen: All the banks are very hush-hush, so we aren’t getting a lot of information from them. Hopefully they will open back up and share that type of thing with us. For the last few weeks it’s been a dog-fight to get anything from the banks.
Caller: I know that for security’s sake, some people want to go to a neighboring city so that they are more anonymous – good idea?
RayRen: People talk, so I’ve always thought it was a good idea to use banks in the larger cities. Even if you tell people not to talk, to keep it under their hats, eventually that hat blows off. Some people bump into their bank people in social settings, and that can give others a clue that they have access to more money. In smaller towns, that is what I would be doing – I’m going out of my small city to exchange.
Caller: You said earlier that you don’t have contract rates on the zim that you can share with us now. So… there are no contract rates on zim? Or you’re unable to share?
RayRen: No comment on zim rates.
Caller: [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
941 caller: About going in early and exchanging a single note: I spoke with a WF banker yesterday, and keeping in mind that the market rate might take a few weeks to go higher, I asked if I could exchange just enough (at, say 47 cents) to deal with a few things, and she said “no problem”.
RayRen: But then you will have the immediate loss of the rate dong will have within a few days, not to mention market rates a few weeks later, perhaps it would be better to secure a small loan against that 47-cent rate rather than losing a few hundred thousand. That’s a different strategy.
Caller: I’m not greedy; I have a lot of dong and I don’t mind losing a few hundred thousand. I’m older and have more than enough for the rest of my life.
RayRen: It’s more about how many people you want to help in the world. That goes beyond what I can spend on me.
Caller: I will have a lot left over to spend in other ways: veterans, young kids, people getting married and starting out in life…
740 caller: My son tells me that when we exchange, we will be obliged to put 80% into humanitarian efforts and have a business plan for that. How do you get a business plan and how they make sure you to this?
RayRen: I’ve heard nothing like that. You have to ask those questions of your son and/or whoever told him about that. There are some groups that are pushing that kind of activity, but the rest of us are not being subjected to that.
Caller: I have a large amount in his group and a small amount that we are holding, enough to pay my immediate bills when I exchange it. I was concerned about the people in Iraq – do they have incomes or are they starving?
RayRen: They have ways to live, but they do want their back pay, pensions, etc.
Caller: [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas! I would definitely go to another city!
610 caller: Folks, these calls are not free. They need to be paid for. Let’s be responsible today with the money that we do have. Go to www.tntsuperfantastic.com, click on that red DONATION button and make your donations to keep these calls going. “Many hands make light work” and many donations will pay the bill. Have a fantastic Easter!
RayRen: I’ll have you sign an affidavit swearing you are not being paid to say this!
432 caller: Do you have anything on Okie? Last time I heard, he is in bad shape.
RayRen: I haven’t spoken to him lately, so I assume his health is getting better. I’ll try to call him, and I’m sure someone will update me on his status.
816 caller: I have a friend that I got into this 1-2 months ago. You said a while back that you might be able to take someone with you for support. Do you know if she could go to my exchange with me so that she can feel more at ease when she goes to hers? I know you said that I could go with her to her appointment, but not speak for them.
RayRen: I don’t see why not. You can go with your friend, but you cannot speak for them unless you have a power of attorney. When you make your appointment, ask about the other person accompanying you, and ask if the bank can do hers immediately after yours.
Caller: Then she can help her 19-year-old daughter. You’re thinking this weekend looks helpful?
RayRen: From the Iraqi standpoint, the 27-28th looks good.
Caller: Like many others, I need to have this happen as quickly as possible. [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
580 caller: I heard last night on the Big Call that Christine Legarde announced the GCR; have you heard anything about that?
RayRen: I heard the rumor but no confirmation.
563 caller: My best friend is on the line with me. Is liquid gas being shipped from Iraq?
RayRen: I don’t know anything about that.
Caller: We also read that the IQD is $4.32 on ISX, and it would be live for 24 hours.
RayRen: I haven’t heard that either, nor international rate either.
865 caller: I was just given a few million in currency; I’m not a whale in dinar, but I am a whale in dong and zim. If you had the ability to buy more for an existing charity and also a show that gives out money, and I intend to give money to Winston, Tony and Ray. The question is, which one of these currencies would you purchase if you could purchase more for these reasons?
RayRen: Do the math on each currencies and work from the reported rates from those who have exchanged. Do the calculations to determine the ROI on each one. Let’s take the dinar, and let’s say it costs $1,000 per million. We should get at least $3.41 when it’s released, so that is $3.4 million for something that cost $1,000. Dong is about $50 per million, and most would be happy at 47 cents, yielding $470,000 for $50 investment. The rupiah will probably come in at least a dollar… so do your math on what it costs to buy compared to the rates we are hearing. Then you choose the best one for you.
Caller: Hypothetically, what would you go for yourself?
RayRen: If the numbers hold true – and that is the biggest question – then the deal to go after is the most solid one, which is the dinar. We know the dinar is what this is centered around, and it’s the core of the GCR.
Caller: I heard you need 20 million dinar to be a whale.
RayRen: I’ve never heard what justifies you to be a whale. I don’t know what the break-point is for someone to identify that they are a whale.
Caller: I’ve heard about whales, and then wonder what makes a porpoise, or a tuna fish.
RayRen: One way to make sure you are a whale it to keep on buying!
Caller: [Appreciation] Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!
RayRen: It’s past the top of the hour. Banks got notifications this morning, and they are making moves to do something. They are not just sitting complacently on their backsides. We are told they want to get this done by the end of the month. In Iraq, there are meetings on Saturday and planning to change prices on Sunday. We’ll see what that is about. We do know they want to get this done by the end of the month. All we can do is wait. Let’s wrap up this session. If there is a need for us to come back, then we will come back for a complete call (if warranted) or a tweet. We will stand by to get this done!
RayRen played I Believe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYrqOUKLtA
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