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Friday, May 6, 2016
WINGIT CC NOTES, 6 MAY
Lifeisart: WINGIT CALL NOTES FOR ~ MAY 6th, 2016
DISCLAIMER. FULL DISCLOSURE AT THEWINGITCALL.COM
THIS COLD BE MY LAST CALL. I’M NOT CALLING IT,
ART. LET’S HOPE THIS IS THE LAST CALL.
BLUWOLF… WE ARE THERE IN ALL ASPECTS..BLUWOLF’S POST: …
It is weird to be sent a collection of videos where the speaker is reading out with certainty what you have written word for word,yet it is entangled in a spaghetti of stories of revolutions and strange militia type of take overs (intriguing and strange, to rich for my blood).
To that person I will command you to desist in your doing so. We are now in a great point, things are transpiring for many in a silent manor while for some the wait is repulsive and energy consuming to say the least.
But yet I must keep informing you that we are there in all aspects of this whole rv situation. The Chinese are meticulously getting things done, in order to avoid getting our monies stolen from those vultures who predator about.
All these predators are falling and being in trapped by the web of the spider, for they are falling like flies.
Things shall be moving forward shortly for our tier is next and it shall flow without any problems WHATSOEVER are we clear.
HAVE A GOOD LIFE. NA’MASTE Bluwolf
p.s. I must insist for all to remember who you are and where you came from, let’s do right by our neighbors, GOT IT!
RAY IS EXCITED, THINK HE’S GOT SOME GOOD CONTACTS. RATES ARE
JUST HEARD FROM SOMEONE ELSE, THAT THEY’RE TRYING TO GET IT DONE BY END OF MARKET CLOSE.
I AGREE W/ GERRY, I THINK WE’RE AT THE END.
GERRY. TODAY, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT POST RV. SOME WE’VE SPOKEN OF, SOME WE’VE NOT.
ALL I’M GOING TO SAY, IS THAT WHEN YOU GO IN, THE RATES YOU’LL BE OFFERED ON THE CURENCY YOU HAVE..EYES ROLL BACK, KNEES WEAK, MAY PASS OUT,
MAY NEED OXYGEN. I’M HOPING THEY’VE HAVE SOME GEORGOUS WOMAN THERE GO GIVE ME CPR, I DON’T WANT SOME HAIRY LEGGED DUDE GIVING ME CPR.. THE RATES ARE STRAIGHT FROM HEAVEN. NOT UNGODLY, THE ZIM, PROBABLY MORE THAN A DOLLAR, AND WHEN YOU’VE YOUR HUMANITARIAN PROJECTS IN ORDER, I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT
AFTER THEY’VE REVIEW EVERYTHING, THEY MAY OFFER YOU MORE.
ASK GOD FOR COUNCIL. TO MUCH CAN BE A BAD THING, IF NOT PREPARED FOR THE RESPONSIBILITIES. I’VE TAKEN THE RESPONSIBILITY OF DOING THESE CALLS, THE RATES HAVE KEPT CLIMBING. THE FIGURES OUR THERE SO DIFFICULT TO WRAP OUR BRAIN OUT. AFTER YOU’VE SEEN THE NUMBERS, AND YOU THINK IT WILL FULFILL YOUR PROJECTS, YOU’LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
DON’T TAKE WHAT YOU CANNOT MANAGE.
AM I A SINNER, YES, ABSOLUTELY EVERYDAY. I ASK FOR FORGIVENESSS EVERYDAY, AND TRY TO WALK A STRAIGHTER PATH.
THE RATES ARE GOING TO SHOCK THE SHORTS OFF OF YOU. THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU’RE BEING OFFERED.
I’M GOING TO SEND A TEXT TO MY FELLOW MEXICAN FRIEND …CAN I SAY THIS?
IKO. THE PROBLEM IS THT WE GET REPORTS ABUT RATES, AND THERE’S NO WAY TO VERIFY IF. NO MATTER HOW MUCH FAITH YOU HAVE IN THAT PERSON,
DEPENDING ON WHOS STATING THIS, THEY CAN GET INTO TROUBLE, JOB LOSSES,
3 LETTER AGENCIES…ISSUES CONCERNING THE REPORTING OF RATES, AND TRYING TO PIN DOWN TIMES.
THIS IS WHY WE ALWAYS STRUGGLE W/ THIS. BUT WE DO WANT PEOPLE TO BE PREPARED WHEN GOING TINTO THE EXCHANGE. BE PREPARED, ASK FOR WHAT YOU WANT, YOU JUST MIGHT GET IT. BE CAREFUL THAT YOU REALLY WANT THIS IN YOUR LIFE OF THIS LEVEL OF MULTIBILLIONAIRE?
I’VE MAKE A LIST OF ALL I WANT, AND I’VE ONE MODEL FOR MY VETERANS FOUNDATION, AND I KNOW WHAT I NEED TO LIVE ON. BUT IT’S NO WHERE NEAR WHAT THIS MONEY IS ALL ABOUT. SO, I’VE STARTED LOOKING AT OTHER PROJECTS/VENTURES.
GERRY. WHEN YOU GO IN, LET THE EXCHANGER SEE WHAT YOU HAVE, LET THEM OFFER YOU A RATE. SORT OF LIKE NEGOTIATING FOR A NEW CAR.
LET’S TALK ABOUT WHAT YOUR LOVES ARE, BECAUSE EVEN WITH A LOT OF MONEY, AND NOT DOING WHAT YOU LOVE, YOULL FEEL LIKE YOUR’RE STUCK.
WE’VE TALKED ABOUT FAMILY OFFICES, ATTORNEY, CPYS, GRANT WRITERS. YOU’RE GOING TO NEED A FEW ATTORNEYS, EVEN IF YOU HAVE HALF OF TRUMP LIKE MONEY. PROTECT YOURSELF FROM LAWSUITS, SET YOURSELF UP PROPERLY.
IKO, ONE THING MY INSURANCE AGENT SAID, YOU REALIZE, YOU CAN’T FIGURE YOUR INSURANCES THE WAY YOU USED TO. YOUR INSURANCE IS YOUR FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE. INSTEAD OF A MILLION DOLLAR OF OCCURANCE, YOU’LL HAVE %5MILLION. HOWEVER, IF YOU RUN OVER A 5 YR OLD IN A SHOPPING LOT, THERE’S NO AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WILL SATISFY. SO THIS GOES STRAIGHT INTO INSURANCES.
LIFE IS GOING TO GET LARGER THAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY IMAGINE. GREATER RESPONSIBILITIES, COMMUNITY/FRIENDS/FAMILY SOCIAL CIRCLES. GOING TO CHANGE DRAMATICALLY.
SOMEONE HAS $1m DINAR, NO ZIM, BUT THEY WILL STILL MAKE A GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY OFF THEIR DINAR. LIFE WILL CHANGE, PEOPLE WILL HAVE THEIR HANDS OUT. FRIENDS, WILL HAVE THEIR HANDS OUT.
IKO SITED A FAMILY FRIENDS SITUATION.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT MONEY IS GOING TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE, WHETHER A MILLIONAIRE, OR BILLIONAIRE.
ALL OF THIS COME INTO PLAY. SECURITY IS A HUGE ISSUES. WHETHER YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO HAVE PERSONAL SECURITY.
GERRY. RULE OF THUMB, HARSH AND BLUNT. I DON’T CARE WHO YOU ARE, HOW CLOSE YOU ARE, WHAT TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP YOU ARE IN, BUT IF YOU HIRE FAMILY MEMBERS TO WORK FOR YOU, YOU’RE GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE. DRAMA MAMA, DRAMA KIDS.
DO NOT BRING FAMILY INTO THIS AND I’M REALLY TALKING ABOUT MARRIED COUPLES. I’M KEEPING THIS SEPERATE FROM MY WIFE, AND WILL PROTECT HER, BUT AM GOING TO KEEP THESE THINGS SEPERATE. KEEP THE WIFE’S MONEY SEPERATE, KEEP THE HUSBANDS FUNDS SEPERATELY.
DON’T COMINGLE FAMILY MONIES, DON’T WORK TOGETHER, BEING ROUND ONE ANOTHER 24/7, SOMEONE’S GOING TO GET HURT. IT’S SELF PROTECTION.
IKO. IT HARSH, BUT TRUE. MY WIFE CAME IN TO MANAGE MY OFFICE, AND PEOPLE WOULD COME IN W HAT IN HAND, AND SAY I’M GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE. THEY COULDN’T TAKE THE BICKERING. COULDN’T HANDLE DYNAMICS.
WIFE AND I ALREADY HAD FRANK DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW TO TAKE PERSONAL CHUNCKS, AND ALSO DO MUTUAL PROJECTS, AS WELL AS PRIVATE PROJECTS. HAVE OUR OWN SETS OF PROFESSIONALS TO TALK W/.
LIKE VISITING GERRY IN TEXAS, EVERYTIME YOU COME BACK I HAVE TO STRAIGHTEN YOU OUT, FROM BEING A REDNECK…LOLOLOLOLOL
MONEY IS REALLY GOING TO UP THE ANTIE.
JUST IN CASE FOLKS HEARD ABOUT FRICTION BETWEEN DB/ WINGIT/IKO AND OTHERS, IT CAN BE SUMMED UP THAT MEN OF GOOD WILL WILL ALWAYS FIND COMPROMISE. JUST CALM DOWN AND ALLOW THINGS TO SETTLE. LET IT GO, NOT WORTH THE ENERGIES.
NOW THEY’RE MOVING. ON AN IN’TL LEVEL, THE $$$ HAS BEGAN TO FLOW. MY UGES IS THAT THE YUAN HAS IT’S PLACE OUT THERE, NOT THE US $$$.
G. IN THE SHIPPING INDUSTRY, DON’T THEY HAVE F.O.B’S FOR THE FIRST 30 DAYS, OR PAYMENT WHEN PRODUCT HITS SHORE.
IKO. LETTERS OF CREDIT, BANK CHEQUES, THAT ARE CUT IN THE DESITINATIN CURRENCY, ALL KINDS OF THINGS, BUT PRETTY MUCH PAID FOR BEFORE IT GETS WHERE IT’S GOING.
G. TWO WEEKS TO 30 DAYS TO BE PAID.
2. with the structured payouts how are you free to pay the necessary taxes?
G. THIS IS JUST ME, I THINKS IT’S GOING TO BE A TAX FREE EVENT, HEARD SOME THINGS, JUST HITCHING MY WAGON, MAY BE TAXES DOWN THE ROAD. MAY BE A 1% UST TRANSACTIONAL FEE UPON EXCHANGE, PERHAPS SOMEONE CAN TEXT ME WITH THAT.
3. Skeleton Trust:
Richard from Masterstrust.com says that the currency needs to be in the Masters trust before the RV for the exchange to be tax deferred. He is basing this on the tax laws.
IKO. IF WE DON’T HAVE A TRUST, AND USE THE SKELETON, THE EXCHANGE WILL BE TAX DEFFERED. YOUR TAX EVENT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TAKE THE CURRENCY YOU OWN AND REVALUE IT AT TIME OF EXCHANGE. IF YOU GO TO THE BANK W/ YOU TRUST, THAT CURRENCY WILL BE INSIDE THAT TRUST, IF NO TRUST AND YOU WANT THE SKELETON, YOU’LL MOVE YOUR CURRENCY INTO THAT TRUST, THEN REVALUE.
IT’S ONLY WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MONEY IN THE SKELETON, NOT PAYING FULL AMOUNT, ONLY ON AMOUNT OF INTEREST EARNED,.. ONLY WHEN YOU PULL MONEY OUT, WILL TRIGGER . WELLS HAS THOUGHT ABOUT ALL OF THIS, WILL NOT PUT YOU INTO A VEHICLE THAT WILL SCREW YOU, BUT ONE THAT WILL SUPPORT YOU. BASED ON TAX HISTORY, YOU’RE RIGHT, BUT THIS IS A NEW WORLD.
Iko says that if we don’t have a trust and use the banks skeleton trust to exchange into that the exchange will be tax deferred. If we do this, it will be after the RV, so according to Richard/Tax code it wouldn’t be tax deferred. What is Iko basing his statement on that it will be tax deferred exchanging into the skeleton trust? Is this based on statements from a bank source or from something else?
ADDITIONAL AND ALTERNATE QUESTION: I have a concern with this in Mind:
On the same vein – If there are structured payouts and We already have our (MastersTrust.com) set up,
A – Does all the money we exchange go into our personal Trust, or does it get “dibbied” out slowly by the bank to us back into our Trusts?
YOU GO IN, YOU HAVE 100% TO EXCHANGED. THE PERCENTAGE THAT YOU’VE AGREED ON … GERRY BREAKING UP BAD. HARD TO HEAR.
B – Then where is it held in safe keeping during the “structured payout process?
IT’S HELD IN W.F. THE 75% IS THEIRS TO HOLD. I’M GOING TO GIVE THEM AS MUCH TIME AS I CAN TO HOLD THEIR SHARE.
Hug a red neck! Mm22
CALLER. Q. WE’VE BEEN TOLD ANYTHING OVER 500M ON ZIM, WILL REQUIRE A STRUCTURED PAYOUT, DOES THIS EXCLUDED FROM THE STRUCTURED PAYOUT, OR INCLUDED.
G. PRETTY SURE IT’S INCLUDED. ON 100% OF YOUR EXCHANGE, I THINK THAT EACH CURRENCY HAS IT’S OWN PAYOUT
Q/ INTEREST, IS IT QUARTERLY?
G. DON’T KNOW, QUESTON FOR YOUR BANKER.
4. I have a Living Trust , S Corp Should I exchange the money into the Trust or the S Corp?
5. Gerry ,no WF in Okla. If I CE here I would have to bank 250 miles away.
OK ME
5. Questions about the NDA…
IKO, THESE ARE REALLY GOOD QUESTION, PROBLEM IS MOST DON’T KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS.
WE’RE GUESSING WE’LL SIGN AN NDA FOR ANYTHING OVER 500M, AND FOR THE ZIM. YESTERDAY, QUESTIONS CAME UP THAT THERE MAY NOT BE BECAUSE THE RATES WILL BE HIGH, AND RATES NEGOTIATED. WE ACTUALLY DON’T KNOW. NOT SURE IF THERE’S A CONTRACT, W/ ZIM, OR AN NDA TALKS ABOUT PART OF THAT, OR ANOTHER PART. QUESTIONS IS THIS: WHAT IS YOUR STRAGEGY FOR DEALING WITH THIS?
WEALTHY FAMILIES MANAGE THESE ISSUES EVERY DAY, AND THE WEALTHY WILL NOT DISCUSS THESE ISSUES WITH YOU, THE MINUTE PEOPLE KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE, THE PROBLEMS BEGIN.
1. What determines whether or not you will have to sign an NDA at exchange? Rate or total exchanged amount? Will all holders of Zim have to sign an NDA?
2. What does the NDA cover? Rate, bank, exchange procedures?
3. What is your strategy for answering nosey questions people will naturally ask when they see your different lifestyle about where you got this money, etc., without telling anything and violating the NDA?
4. What is the penalty for violating the NDA? Can someone falsely accuse you of talking about things and cause you to have your accounts frozen, for example? I won’t be talking about any of this, but wondering of outside people can mess things up somehow… I think the NDA will be ok, but I want to have complete peace about it
IKO, I’VE WONDERED THIS MYSLEF. I DON’T ACTUALLY KNOW, BUT IF YOU HAVE PERHAPS 75% OF YOUR WEALTH ON WF. AND YOU BREAK THE NDA, YOU MAY SUFFER CONSDQUENCES. RECALLING DC, IF YOU CAN’T KEEP YOU MOUTHS SHUT, DON’T SIGN AN NDA. TAKE THE STREET RATES.
6. I would like to know if Dean (corporation soul) is still connected with Tax Neutral Blessing. Thank You
IKO…I DON’T KNOW…SEEK PROFESSIONAL ADVICE.
7. Gerry, Art, Iko, Pastor…what would each of you wish that we take away from this experience? What would you hope we have received or learned as we have waiting for this blessing?
GRERY. THAT WHAT WILL AL OF MY SUPPORT, THAT I’VE BROUGHT SOME PEACE OF MIND, TO HAVE HELPED YOU. WANT TO KNOW THAT YOU’RE HAPPY FROM MY CONTRIBUTIONS. DON’T WANT TO BE ON A PEDESTAL. HOPE THAT YOU’VE LEARNED ABOUT ME, THAT I’LL KEEP LEARNING AND GROWING UNTIL I’M PUSHING UP DAISIES.
IKO. BASED ON ALMOST 40 YRS OF BEGIN IN BUSINESS, SUCCESSFUL AND FLAMED OUT, IF EVERYONE COULD SIMPLY LEARN ONE SIMPLE TACTIC IN CONDUCTING THEIR FINANCIAL BUSINESS, WHENEVER SOMEONE ASK YOU TO MAKE A DECISION, TELL THEM … ‘I’LL GET BACK TO YOU TOMORROW.’ YOU’LL BE SURPRISED AT WHAT A GOOD NIGHT’S SLEEP WILL DO.
IF YOU’LL DO THIS, NEARLY HAVE THE MISTAKES YOU COULD MAKE, WILL BE AVOIDED.
THIS IS AT LEAST ONE BIG ONE, I HOPE ALL HAVE LEARNED.
To say thank you for all each of you have done, seems so little for the amount all of you have done and continue to do for us. May the Lord bless and keep each of you as you continue your walk.
9. According to your sources, does it still look like the 800#s will be given at night while most of us are sleeping?
GERRY, AT THIS POINT, ANYTIME IT COULD HAPPEN. I STILL GO BACK THAT THEY MAY PREFER US AT NIGHT TIME, TO KICK IT OFF…AFTER DARK.
10. Have you heard if Chase is doing a structured payout?
IKO. STRUCTURED PAYOUTS, NO. CHASE WILL NOT, AND THIS COMES FROM CHASE THEMSELVES, THEY DON’T HAVE THE CHARTER. THAT SAID, WF DOING THE SP, AND ARE DOING A HYPRED/INTREST/BALOON PAYMENT. DON’T KNOW WHERE THIS TERM CAME FROM, NOT REALLY WHAT IT IS. BUT, WE’VE HEARD THAT YES, THEY CAN SET THESE UP. ACCOURDING CHASE, NOT DOING SP, BUT NOT TAKING ZIM EITHER. NOT DOING THE 2B ON THE CURRENCY, THIS IS A WF PROGRAM.
GERRY. MUST UNDERSTAND, THE RATES ARE HIGH. WF HAVE POSITIONED THEMSELVES, NOT STUMPING FOR THEM, NO PAYBACK, POSITIONED BETTER THAN ANY OTHER BANK, TO TAKE CARE OF US. THEY ARE GUARANTEEING US A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE QUARTERLY, ESPECIALLY IF IT’S HIGH, LIKE THE ZIM,
LET THEM TAKE CARE OF IT. YOU’RE HANDS ARE GOING TO BE FULL ON YOUR SIDE TO TAKE CARE OF. THAT AMOUNT YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE WILL BE A FULL TIME JOB. YOU’RE LEAVING A PAY CHECK TO PAYCHECK TO LIVING FULLY YOUR DREAMS.
WINGIT CALLWILL REMAIN UP. LINK ON RELAYS REMAIN UP, GO BACK AN LISTEN IF YOU LIKE. LIFE WILL CHANGE, PREPREATIONS CHANGED MONTHS AGO, BUT IS AT A HEAD TODAY.
IKO, THE RATES ARE REALLY HIGH!
11. I have an LLC for a piece of property I own. Can I exchange using this LLC and setup a trust after the exchange? Are they’re any disadvantages to doing this.
IKO. A FEW YEARS AGO, I WAS COACHED. YOU HIRE PROFESIONALS TO TAKE CARE OF THESE RESOURCES. {SORRY, I MISSED THIS}
START UP A BRAND NEW LLC, TO MANAGE THIS WEALTH, DO NOT DUMP NEW INTO OLD. ALSO, MY PRO TOLD ME, WE COULD PARK THE MONEY AND TAKE 6 MONTHS TO KNOW WHAT I WANT TO DO, THIS NOW HAS CHANGED AS WELL.
QUESTION. CALLER. ARE WELLS FARGO GOING TO BE THE TRUSTEE ON THE SKELETON TRUST? I’M CONCERNED THT IF WE SAY, WE’VE OUR OWN TRUST, THEY MAY NOT ACCEPT IT. AM CONCERNED.
GERRY, I DON’T KNOW.
IKO. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ALL OF THE $$ THAT WF WILL BE PLACING INTO THAT 75% TRUST, THEY WILL WANT TO MANAGE THAT. MY THOUGHT IS THAT THEY HAVE TO CONTROL THAT MONEY.
ON THE TRUST FOR YOURSELF, YOU ARE THE TRUSTEE.
GERRY. THEY ARE LISTENING TO THESE CALLS. BUT, YOU NEED TO ASK THEM THEM THESE QUESTIONS.
IKO. WHEN I HEAR SOMONE SAY, PUT IT IN GOD’S HANDS, YES, ULTIMATELY THAT’S WHAT WE DO WITH ALL THINGS. BUT, IF YO’RE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, YOU DON’T TAKE YOUR HANDS OFF THE WHEEL.
TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CAR. IT’S A COOPERATION THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE FAITH, AT THE SAME TIME, BE SMART, AND INVOLVED WITH OUR MONEY. IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE UNIVERSE HAS ALWAYS HELPED ME OUT, WHEN I SEEK TRUTH AND PROD MY BRAINS OUT, IS WHEN I GET THE GREATEST HELP. EDUCATE YOURSELF, SO YOU’LL BE PREPARED. WE’VE INFORMATION THAT WE CAN CHECK INTO, THAT WILL HELP US IN THE EXCHANGE.
CALLER QUESTION: REQUEST FOR THOSE OF US ON THE PACIFIC COAST, TO HAVE THE TWEETS OUT A BIT LATER. ONE SOLUTION, TURN OFF THE PHONE, OR LOWER THE VOLUME
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IKO, MOST WEALTHY PEOPLE HAVE HAD THEIR COFFEE, BREAKFAST BY 6 AM. LEARN TO BE WEALTHY NOW, YOU’RE LIFE IS ABOUT TO CHANGE.
CALLER QUESTION. I GIFTED A COLLAGE PERSON, 3RD YR, WILL IT MESS UP HIS FINANCIAL AID? {i missed the name of his son’s financial aid }
GERRY. GO TO MASTERSTRUST.COM AND READ UP ON THE TRUST SET UP PER THE IRS GUIDELINES, AS WE KNOW IT NOW. EVEN IT IRS GOES AWAY, THE TRUST WILL STILL FUNCTION. TRUST BEEN AROUND SINCE THE 1400’S . THERE’S CASE LAWS IN THERE, IRS CODES TO LOOK AT. LOTS OF ANSWERS IN THERE.
IKO. PUT HIS FUNDS INTO A TRUST ACCOUNT.
GERRY READS A TEXT HE JUST RECEIVED: . HELL NOT TO LAWYERS, THE INTEREST GOES TO THE STATE.
CALLER. WILL HSBC ALSO BE PROVIDING NUMBERS FOR EXCHANGE?
GERRY. I THINK SO.
CALLER QUESTION. RE. SKELETON TRUST. WHEN THEY GET THE 75% AND WE WALK AWAY WITH THE 25%. WILL WE BE TAXED ON WHAT WE TAKE?
GERRY. CORRECT. WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE FULL FUNCTION OF THE TRUST, IS WHEN IT BECOMES A TAXABLE EVENT. YOU WON’T BE TAKING THE WHOLE 25%.
IKO, IF YOU HAVE THAT INTEREST GO INTO YOUR TRUST, ITS TAX DEFERRED. LOOKING AT TWO TRUST..1 THE BANK CONTROLS THAT GIVES A QUARTLY INTEREST.
YOUR OWN TRUST IS TAX DEFERED UNTIL YOU TAKE IT OUT.
THAT FINAL PAYMENT WILL GO INTO YOUR TRUST AS WELL. WHEN YOU TAKE MONEY OUT OF YOUR TRUST, IT BECOMES CAPITAL GAINS, TAXABLE EVENT. BUT, WHAT YOU’LL FIND WITH A WELL STRUCTURED TUST, YOU WON’T BE TAKING MONEY OUT ALL THAT OFTEN. BE TAKING SPENDING MONEY, BUT THE TRUST WILL BUY HOMES, CARS, ETD. DON’T GET TAXED ON THOSE INTEREST PAYMENTS UNLESS YOU TAKE IT OUT.
LET IT SIT IN THE TRUST FOR AT LEAST A YEARS. DON’T FORGET, THE FIRST FEW WEEKS, AFTER RV., YOU’RE GOING TO GO GET VERY GOOD COUNCIL TO HAVE THIS ALL EXPLAINED TO YOU.
CALLER QUESTION; HAS ANYONE SEEN THE NEIL KEENEN UPDATE/ VIDEOS?
GERRY, WATCHED TWO, RAN OUT OF TIME TO WATCH THE OTHERS.
CALLER., BASICALLY KEENEN HAS BEEN TOLD TO RELEASE THE INFORMATION. DUNSFORD IS PRE. DINAR GOLD BACK, ZIM GOLD BACKED. $11.80. LOTS OF GOOD NEWS, GETTING IT FROM M2. SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS A DONE DEAL.
GERRY.. I DON’T SPEAK OF DATES AND RATES. THANK YOU FOR THAT TIDBIT. SHOW ME THE MONEY!
CALLER QUESTION. DO WE STILL NEED 2 BANK ACCOUNTS.
GERRY. NO EACH CURRENCY WILL HAVE OWN DEPOSIT SLIP, SHOULD BE OKAY.
CALLER QUESTION; RE STRUCTURED PAYOUTS, AM I STUCK IN A SKELETON TRUST?
IKO. IF YOU DON’T MEET THE THRESHOLD, WE WE ARE TOLD IT’S 500MILLION DOLLARS, IF YOU’VE GOT MORE THAN THAT, AND 75-90% IS GOING INTO A SKELETON TRUST FOR PAYOUTS, .. HAVE YOU CALCULATED THE INTEREST PAYMENTS?
CALLER. DON’T REALLY UNDERSTAND TRUST, DON’T REALLY KNOW WHAT WF IS DOING. JUST WANT TO DO IT RIGHT. SOUNDS LIKE THE 75% WILL BE IN THE WF TRUST?
IKO. MY UNDERSTANDING, I HAVE A FEELING WE WON’T CHANGE THAT SKELETON, WE’RE BECOMING MEMBERS OF THAT GIAGANTIC TRUST. NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MOVE IT OUT UNTIL THE AGREED TIME/TERM.
THE LONGER WE LEAVE IT, THE BETTER THE INTEREST RATE. YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF MONEY AFTER JUST ONE YEAR, AND THAT MONEY INSIDE YOU OWN PERSONAL TRUST WILL ALSO BE MAKING MONEY. MAY EVEN BE ABLE TO HAVE WF MANAGE THAT MONEY, AND NEGOTIATE THAT INTEREST. A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THESE FUNDS WELL MANAGED. IF WF GOES DOWN, THE WORLD GOES DOWN. WHEN WE PLUG INTO THESE RATES, AND LOOK AT THE QTLY INTEREST IS MIND-BLOWING.
IT’S OMG!!! MONEY. EVEN WHEN IT’S IN YOUR OWN TRUST, IT’S STILL OMG!!!! MONEY. YOU HAVE YOUR PERSONAL TRUST WORKING FOR YOU, AND THE WF TRUST WORKING FOR YOU…IT’S REALLY, TRULY …. OMG !!!!!! MONEY.
GOING BACK TO THE QUESTION OF WHAT WOULD WE HAVE YOU LEARN FROM THIS IS, THAT, AS WEALTHY PEOPLE, WE CAN TAKE OUR TIME. EVERYONE ELSE IS WAITING FOR US. TAKE YOU TIME.
AS FAR AS THE THINGS IN LIFE THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT, WE HAVE THE TIME TO ALLOW THINGS TO UNFOLD., AND WATCH HOW THEY UNFOLD. THIS IS ANOTHER GIFT, GIVEN TO US. TAKE YOUR TIME.
CALLER, QUESTION. SOME THINGS I’M WANTING TO DO RE THE CURRENCY, WONDERING IF THE BANK WOULD LOAN ME MONEY AGAINST MY OWN MONEY, HUMANITARIAN THINGS I WANT TO DO AND NOT WAIT A WHOLE YEAR? HAVE THEM MANAGE 25-25%, ANOTHER MANAGER MANGE ANOTHER 25%. I HAVE RECEIPTS THAT I PURCHASED. DON’T HAVE IT IN HAND, FOR TWO WEEKS, WILL THIS BE A PROBLEM?
IKO, DON’T SEE WHY NOT, YOU CANNOT GET A LOAN. ON THE RECEIPTS, THOSE ARE FOR TAX PURPOSES, MOST LIKELY. WHAT YOU HAVE IN HAND IS THE RATE YOU’RE GOING TO GET.
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Friday Conferece call Replay with Gerry Maguire
Guests Iko Ward, Art, and more….
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WINGIT CHAT UPDATE, 6 MAY
WingIt:
Blackeyepea: Truly my loves, this is just a waiting game! You’re already wealthy!
SthTxsam: Thanks Bep! … what are the chances we see the numbers by nightfall?
Blackeyepea: Truly we could get numbers tonight or next week. No one knows when we will get the actual call to exchange but we do know we will get one!
I want to encourage everyone! HANG IN THR!/WE ARE NEXT!
I KNOW YOURE HUNGRY BUT THE CAFETERIA LINE IS MOVING NICELY! THEY JUST OPENED ANOTHER CASHIER AND LINE!
THE HARDEST PART HAS BEEN THE WAIT. NOT THE RATES.
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GJHHonor: gm to all The New US Republic via a Global Currency Reset https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVqrTFTN4po
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THE WINGITCALL FOR MAY 6th, 2016 ~ 3:30pm EST~
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Secondary Call in Line: 682-233-7292 ~
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WSOMN CHAT UPDATE, 6 MAY
WSOMN
AdminBill: IT IS MY BELIEF, BASED UPON WHAT I HAVE HEARD, THAT WE ARE IN A REASONABLE PERIOD OF EXPECTATION TO SEE SIGNIFICANT INDICATORS DURING THE COMING 2-3 DAYS THAT WILL PRECEDE THE EVENT WE ARE EXPECTING.
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THESE INDICATORS HAVE BEGUN AND WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE DAY. BASED UPON SOURCES CONNECTED TO BANKING, CURRENCIES AND BONDS
WE ARE IN A GREAT SPOT TODAY TO SEE CONTINUED POSITIVE ACTIONS, ACTIVITIES AND VEILED ANNOUNCEMENTS.
Lostnq8: From cnbc – “If we get a weak payroll report, if this economy doesn’t grow as robustly as we might have expected just a few weeks ago, then it will unleash a parade of horribles onto the stock market,”
Lostnq8: BREAKING: Rate hike odds plunge after April jobs report badly misses estimates
Acdc : Dow moving into our sweet spot. Hang tight. It’s precipitous in our favor ….It’s not a number it’s the move steeply to the down side
Acdc : The best news will not come from Bruce or poppy3. Watch the transformation of the two financial systems as we move into asset backed
CCsc: This morning’s news flatly said to watch for the Market’s closing re: gold and yuan. Also O is speaking about economy at noon est. This Afternoon will be a good one…. This was on the AP and America’s Morning News. It was about all we have been hearing. Bond markets, gold back….
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Raginajun: The protestor in iraq are going to get more aggresive the longer the sit on thier as***, something is going to have too happen soon are people or going to get hurt
Plastictub: are the protestors active this morning ?
StillOKRocks: Steven Ishak nabil @stevoiraq 5 hours ago Locking up ahead of planned protest. #baghdad is protest proof now #iraq . Government taking all steps available.
Plastictub: locking up meaning they are preparing for the riots again ?
StillOKRocks: plastic… they blocked many roads
Plastictub: still; wish they would use the energy to push the button instead of preparing for riots when all the people just want what was promised to them
StillOKRocks: SADR – “The demonstrations will be the venues for the Friday prayers,* not Tahrir Square after Friday prayers.” He added, “The Coordinating Committee for the demonstrations will determine later date and time of the demonstrations After selecting and installing the parliament session.”
StillOKRocks: KR Security Council @KRSCPress 5 hours ago Compulsory coexistence has not worked. And that is why Kurdistan Region of Iraq will hold a referendum to establish a sovereign state. This move will not only offer hope to the Kurds; it will also bring certainty to a divided region. #TwitterKurds #Iraq
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DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 6 MAY
5-6-2016 Intel Guru Bruce …rv happened on Tuesday morning…. but with authority still pending…new financial system will not allow price fixing, manipulation – set up so its fair…in the past blatant transactional manipulations… now it is designed to be fair, much faster, and transparent…financial deceptions are now exposed… it is possible that we are in a strong position right now, that we will see redemptions …very very shortly…once the process begins, there is turning back. That is why there has been so many stops and starts. I would say we are in a position that we will see this very shortly.
5-6-2016 Newshound Guru Backdoc IF YOU ALL REMEMBER IRAQ HAD TO SETTLE DEBTS WITH ITS CREDITORS A COUPLE YEARS AGO! HERE WE GO AGAIN! WE AWAIT FOR IRAQS’ SHIA BROTHER [IRAN] TO SETTLE ITS DEBTS SO IT WILL BE ALLOWED TO RE-ENTER THE WORLD! WHAT I STRONGLY BELIEVE IS IRAQ HAS MADE UP DRAMA TO STRING THE STORY ALONG UNTIL IRAN IS READY! IMO THE TWO SHIA BROTHERS WILL GO TOGETHER! IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE DEAL! AMAZING HOW IRANS RESERVES HAVE SOARED, THAT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE! WOW! ONCE THE DEBTS ARE SETTLED AND WE HOPE VERY SOON, IRAN WILL HAVE A CURRENCY OF COMPATIBILITY TO ITS SHIA BROTHER AND THE REST OF THE MONETARY REFORM WILL LAUNCH! THIS IS WHAT WE WAIT FOR NOT IRAQ! IRAN! …IMO.
5-6-2016 Intel Guru Blowolf …We are now in a great point…we are there in all aspects of this whole rv situation. Things shall be moving forward shortly…
5-6-2016 Newshound Guru wmawhite …what the deletion of the zero project is? …it is a “project”…not a single event…the CBI, which controls the project…is already in the process of doing… Also…the process of moving into the markets is not going to wait on whether the Prime Minister has all of the ministers he wants or if he has only half…it is a process that has already started…and again, what we see is not the end of the world…just look at Japan’s parliament, or Turkey’s…not all of the world follow our rules of behavior.
5-6-2016 Newshound Guru Chattels …the political discord makes it almost impossible to get anything through parliament, which is necessary to change the government. …Abadi can change nothing without Parliament. The notion and assertions by the others that Abadi is “in control” or that “Parliament has been fired” is just nonsense. It is a dangerous “game” being played and the future of a democratic Iraq as we know it hangs in the balance.
5-6-2016 Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3 “…slow but deliberate movement…positioning to complete reform sometime in near future during june…” TIME WILL TELL…SOME REPORTS THAT KERRY REQUESTED WHILE HE WAS THERE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THAT IF THEY WHERE NOT GOING TO FINISH REFORM TILL THE LAST WEEK OF JUNE TO JUST WAIT TILL JULY 4TH AND THE USA COULD CELEBRATE A NEW INDEPENDENCE DAY. I TRULY DOUBT THIS…HOWEVER I COULD HEAR KERRY MAKING THAT SUGGESTION… …we have come thousands of miles in comparison to previous years on things actually getting completed…get ready for great news in june till july first week. there will be movement during that time…not sure if they will rv during that time but it is expected by many researchers…we are definitely closing in and we will all win together.
5-6-2016 Intel Guru Frank26 IMO…Last Thursday BIS and WB said to Iraq…Go on MR. Then they say that the IMF said they will finish with Iraq in May. That’s what i believe.
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TNT Call notes 6-May-2016 — truncated
TNT Call notes 6-May-2016
RayRen: [TNT Rap] http://checks Good afternoon, TNT super-fantastic family! Welcome to the super-fantastic call on Friday, May 6, 2016. This is RayRen98 here.
Sorry the call was late; I was chasing down some info. We’re here in May when I thought this would happen last December, before Christmas. Well, it should happen pretty darn soon. We’re on the last leg, so thanks to the Mods, transcribers, and anyone who had to do with pulling this program together in the last 3-4 years. We’ve had a lot of fun, and no one expected to be here in May 2016. We are here; we’ve stayed the course, and for those on the TNT calls at the weekends (in chat), there has been a message that we always put out about ‘are you ready to walk in your season’. We start the call with that song, like we wrap this one up with I Believe. The lyrics remind us that “it’s your time”, and “the waiting is over”. We’ve had some members challenge that because they didn’t understand what was being said because they are focused only on the RV and going to the bank. That’s just a small part of what we are involved in. It encompasses all we have learned on this journey, waiting patiently (or otherwise). We cannot make this thing happen; all we can do is sit and wait. Most have learned as much as we could, but we still cannot make it happen any sooner than it will happen. I do believe we have reached the stage where we can join in unison and start thinking and saying “the waiting is over; it’s your time.”
If the information holds true, I think we are very close. The intentions are good, and if the follow through, then the wait is over, on all levels. Then we complete this process and begin a new one.
There is no new news – yet. We send out a tweet to 250,000, and if the tweet message says something of interest to them, no doubt they will make a move. We take that responsibility very seriously. We could get on this and say anything we want, but someone has to be the sentinel for the group – what’s in our best interest to know, and what gives us no benefit to know. If this were an easy job, everyone would do it – some have attempted it, and we have seen them crash and burn along the way. Having info is one part, and then knowing how much to share, that’s a different question. We’ve had people participated in helping us stay so far to the right (or to the left) for their interests as well as your best interests. Now that we are on the way out, something that might have been important NOT to say six or twelve months ago, now it may not have the same importance in May 2016. I have to turn these questions over in my mind about what to say and what not to say. Nobody is calling me with help and advice!
Everything is so quiet. In Iraq, we see skirmishes and threats; Sadr’s followers are saying “Get reforms done by Wednesday, or what took place last Saturday, you ain’t seen nothing yet”. Last Saturday is child’s play compared to what they may do this Saturday. The PM made announcements to calm everyone down, saying violence doesn’t solve anything. Peaceful protest is okay, but otherwise…
But the things we really want to hear – let’s see if we hear them tomorrow, because I believe it will.
On the US side, which I have not 100% confirmed, but putting it out there will accelerate getting it confirmed. I had some information that I received incorrectly the other day, about the banks doing some rate activity, and was not able to confirm it. This next piece of information is something I don’t know is 100% true or not, but we will know if we put it out. This should be showing up in the East Coast banks very shortly – I got the info an hour or so ago) — and they are supposed to be posting the real rates plus authorization to exchange. This is what I’m getting: dinar = $3.47, which I’ve also heard from Iraq on the cards. Dong = $2.17; Zim = 11 cents – I’ve heard some other things but this is what is on the screens, and that is what the banks will work with unless the receive other instructions. We’ll see!
Q: Is the ‘senior statesman’ who stood up for us with contract rates and fair treatment still in contact with us? A: Not with me, but I make some new banking connections and contract rates are still in play.
Q: Internet information says this will be done by the 22nd, and I am traveling to my son’s graduation over those dates. I’m not a traveller and am worried – is it problem carrying currency through airport security? [No.] What about exchanging in the state I’m traveling to and transferring it afterwards? A: Neither should be a problem.
Q: CNN has an article on the Zim, saying the 100 trillion note is worthless. A: Well, it is right now, we are waiting for that to change!
Q: Can I exchange my currency into a self-directed Roth IRA post-RV and then place it in a trust of my choice? A: No. If it’s in the Roth IRA, it’s already in a qualified plan. Leave it there to do its work.
Q: We hear reports of where Iraq is in the process; can you speak about how that relates to the GCR? [long question] A: I don’t think fixation on Iraq is insignificant; if it were, why would the others not have moved on without them. Iraq is waiting for economic reform and action on corruption; what the excuse for the other countries? Maybe Iraq is more significant than we think, otherwise the other countries would go around them and get it done.
Q: What about the banks wanting you to leave 75% in the bank for humanitarian projects? A: I haven’t heard that from my banking contacts.
Q: Does Abadi have the authority to change the rate of the dinar? Has the RV already happened? A: I gather he has the right to seat a government if Parliament doesn’t get its act together, and that government can then change their currency, I guess. I don’t follow the politics that much because I’m interested in remedies. Has the RV happened already? Not publicly, not yet.
Q: Do your sources believe the internet group will go before the public? A: Yes.
Q: Will Iraq have to get straightened out first? A: I don’t know.
Q: Do you believe the RV will be announced in the middle of the night? A: No, but who knows?
Q: It is true 2.1 million people have exchanged across the world but not in the US? A: I haven’t heard any information like that. Whoever is saying that, have them give you data to back it up.
Q: Why are we last in line? A: I don’t know that we are.
512 caller: It sounds like we are heading to the last roundup tomorrow.
RayRen: Sounds like it to me!
423 caller: [can’t understand the caller] Could you send an email to Bruce and get together with him? It sounds like he has some great information.
RayRen: This is a Q and A for specific information; something like that you could sent to me in a PM.
Caller: It looks like it is moving today?
RayRen: Some banks are gearing up for today and some are gearing up for tomorrow; we are just watching the clock at this point. It could be any time they decide to do it once they have authorization. They could move at once, or perhaps some timing thing for the banks themselves. I stay calm because intel comes and goes and doesn’t materialize…
941 caller: I just found a great house in South Carolina, and we’ll have a big party. My banking gal who knows about this said yesterday that it’s looking really close.
[I have a meeting now, and in any case, there is no new information or even new questions.]
RayRen played I Believe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYrqOUKLtA
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